Sour Pressure - Inktober days 9 and 11
The mother of all conspiracy theories.
There is and never has been a perfect housewife. The kind that magazines from the 40's to 60's until this day have been telling about and glorifying. They simply do not exists. If a perfect house wife with a perfect hair, figure, clothes, obeying children, always on time with perfect food is not a total basket case and an alcoholic, perhaps some drug addiction going on there too, the perfect housewife has to be a robot.
A robot built and invented by worldwide magazine Illuminati to sell magazines to house wives all over the world so that ordinary wives can see all their flaws compared to a perfect house wife robot, a tireless machine that never sleeps and has only one goal; to please everyone else and ignore their own needs and wants. To settle for cooking and cleaning although brain could be solving mind blowing mathematical equations. To make family happy and carry on with only occasional thank yous although their heart would crave for proper recognition; pile of money and a Nobel price.
Actually it's not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact.
So consider yourself warned. Some day. Some wonderfully warm and sunny day. Your perfect house wife has left the building. And there's only a note on the fridge that says:
"Made macaroni and cheese for you for the rest of your life. It's in the freezer. Went out to invent and grow a new planet."
And that's only the best case scenario. Your perfect house wife could also unplug the freezer. Or stuck you in it and put it on quick freeze. You with your mother. Along with that co-worker of yours who you so often have to work overtime with.
And then they could use that perfect brain of theirs and become your boss. Or your president! Or the master of the universe!
Did I get all the stereotypical house wife issues here or what?!
Here are the almost but not quite done stages.
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I had a second topic too.
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This is the same house wife, after world domination, showing their true identity, a robot on the inside, vicious and cruel killer on the outside, feeling pressure on not killing their opponent because they promised to play by the rules and the rules clearly say that in the case of large sums of money, bluffing, loosing or winning, you shall not kill your opponent and after the game you have to give them two days head start before you begin to hunt them down.
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This made me laugh....lolol
But I do know one perfect housewife.
So....sorry..I just blew your whole conspiracy theory. Cuz if one exists.... there might be two.
Although....she may still do that Mac and cheese freezer note.
Hahahaha
I'll be sure to let you know if she snaps!!!! But she's my idol!!!! Lol
Thank you! I'm glad that you liked! :)
*cough * (a robot) *cough * (obviously robot.) *cough cough *
Some call it snapping, I call it returning to their true self and obeying their true nature.
noooooooooooo LOL please don't take away my superhero!!!!!! LOL
hahahahahahahahahaha
so wrong.
SO WRONG. LOL
She is my NEO!!!
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Ahhahahha, better not marry then! 😂
I blame too high expectations. And the Magazine Illuminati of course.
I knew it, I just fuckin knew it. That's where everything went wrong. Can you please explain to my wife that sex 6 times a day (8 on Saturday, cause you know it's Saturday...) 4 course meals prepared every meal time, on time, and an immaculately clean house are perfectly normal requests .
Oh shit I read that wrong cause I was too busy looking at the pictures... Now I'm going to have to deal with the consequences...
Can someone help me move my freezer out of the house please?
Oh man are you in trouble now. :D
I' sending you freezer moving help. Tomorrow. Oh wait, tomorrows tomorrow. Oh wait no, that's not right. Some day after tomorrow, okay? So help is on the way.
Tomorrow or the day after will be fine, by then it will be too late. Mecha wife will awaken and that's me.
I hope the carve a eulogy on my freezer
I'm sure someone already has established a company that does that. Carves eulogies to freezers. In case people get really, really, really stuck.
If not they should. It would be a great business plan.
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Thank you! :)
My pleasure. Loved the explanation and reasoning behind the work. Keep up the awesome work.
Thank you! Sometimes the hardest thing is to make up a some story to the pictures, although I know it's not necessary but I want to do it anyway, but not in this case. The reasoning was in my head ready to be written.
It makes the art more "authentic" (if I can use that loaded term) if you have a story or explanation that goes with it. Or, it makes the are more believable. It shows the thoughts of the artist, otherwise, the viewer is left with control of the creation process. Or that is just my view. There are so many theories about who actually creates meaning in art, the viewer, the artist, the system in which the art is produced, etc. etc.
That's what I think too. The creation process truly is part of the finished piece and it sometimes gives a deeper meaning to the art and sometimes changes the way we see or feel about the art.
So true. Few understand this. Presenting only the artwork sometimes leaves the viewer wanting more. Often I walk in art galleries that are mostly void of explanation. I find myself yearning to communicate with the artist, not necessarily to find out more about the deeper meaning per se, but just to understand the creative process as you mentioned as well.
Also I love watching the art process which, in my opinion, is art too. The journey to the finished product.
From a rather post-modern perspective, the process of making art is, like you said, also art. Video tape yourself can slap the label of performance art on it and call it a day! No, just kidding. But it is like that, seeing the artist go into the space of creativity and the subsequent "performance" or creation is awesome.
On a different note, check my review of your work! It is not very long or detailed, and I am sure you were tagged in it.
Thanks for the insightful discussion on the process of creating art!
Video of tape yourself might also be art, it all depends. If there's also a message in it, a reason, something the artist wants to say, with the method of performance, it definitely is art. One might say it's the thought that counts. :) But do people like it or not, that's always debatable.
Take for instance Butoh dance. Is it performance or dancing? Is it art? I think it is, all of those. And when you know the history behind butoh dance, where it's origin is, why it was created, it really gives a deeper meaning, especially to those performances where traditional butoh dance is used.
But do we as spectators need to know the history or the creation process behind a certain style or an art piece to understand it? In my opinion, no. I think seeing things not knowing anything about them is totally fine and acceptable. And sometimes it's a cool experience to see things not knowing anything, after seeing it the first time finding out stuff and then experiencing the art again, perhaps in a whole new way. But then again, coming back to that "tape yourself" thought, if the art doesn't give anything to the spectator, no thoughts, no questions, no peace of mind or an uncomfortable feeling, nothing, was the art worth making for?
Thank you so much for the review! You chose the words in your review so well that there's nothing left to add. Well summarized!
And thank you too, I really enjoyed our discussion. Art talk is always welcome.
That is so true. I video-taped myself making some abstract paintings a while ago, just for documentation's sake. The video ended up becoming a type of performance art in itself, unplanned.
Wow, I have never even heard of it, but viewing it, I am mesmerized. As someone unfamiliar with the history and cultural situatedness thereof, I lean towards it being art. The video I watched just now of it reminds me of the lead singer frontman of the band Tool, Maynard James Keenan. In his older live performances, he danced in a very similar style. I wonder if he might have been inspired by Butoh dance.
This is a very thoughtful question. Like you said, leaning toward a "maybe no", and with the addition of making one feel uncomfortable, etc., it all depends right. In the end, art cannot really be bound by rules. But I am reminded of a quote by a philosopher, William Marx in The Hatred of Literature, writing about literature that does not shock one:
I think that quote can be relevant to all art as well. And I think Butoh dance also fits in this. It immediately makes one uncomfortable if you are not familiar with it. I am not sure if this is a legit and authentic version of it, but it is one of the first when I google it:
Again, irrespective of cultural and historical significance, this dance reminds me of performance art, I struggle to fit it into any predefined notions of art, it makes me feel uncomfortable, it challenges me, it makes me think differently, etc.
Sorry for the already too long comment!
I am so glad that the review got chosen and that you find it well!
Oh gosh, an honest mistake by me. I added the word of in my mind and also understood it so. Although I do love to misread words and purposely talk about that misread subject, this was an honest mistake.
My mind had this image of someone using actual tape (duck tape or something) and recording a video of that. 😀 But now that I read again our conversation, I don't think it matters that much if we talk only of a videotape or a videotape of taping oneself.
Anyway...
I found a Maynard James Keenan compilation and yeah, sure looks awfully like Butoh dance. Perhaps some krumping there too. I'm calling that authentic movement. Just free association. And I think most of us, if given no idea or ideal way on how to dance, or if our minds would be erased of the "rules" on how to dance, and also given the gift of not caring at all what other people think, when hearing that music, we would dance like he does.
That video you found (I think it's mesmerizing too) looks like very traditional Butoh dance, though I'm not an expert but sure looks like what can be defined as a reaction to post-war shock and discarding the traditional classical moves that are often described as beautiful and easily absorbed. The William Marx quote is spot on. About Butoh and art generally. We need art challenging us. Art at it's best is something that challenges us in some way. May it be opinions of the world or self reflection but challenge it must. Although some might disagree but fortunately we: you, I and William Marx know better.
Also we of course need art to show feelings like anger or sadness. Or to tell horrible stories. In my opinion, if something indescribably horrible has happened, why would an artist try to please the audience by sugarcoating it to a pleasurable art that doesn't make the people watching the art uncomfortable? Is it the same story or does it tell another story about pleasing people over your own needs. Stories that no-one perhaps wants to see or hear need to be told too because the world is full of them.
I love talking about art, dancing and philosophical topics so your comment wasn't too long at all. I love reading long comments, in this case especially! And besides, my comments are long too.
Here's one modern Butoh performance that combines so many things I love. Dancing, ingeniously video, glitches, weirdness and awesome city scenery with really cool colors. Not forgetting philosophy. The mood is so cool and the whole video is so captivating.
What a lovely misreading! I love this. Our language is awesome!
Great! And yes, I fully agree. There is something organic to his movements that everyone can mimic in that situation. I would guess that Butoh dancing has some more rules and structure for those familiar with it?
True, not everyone would agree. And sometimes I think people would react with real shock and not the more philosophical or artistic shock we are referring to, if I make any sense? Or let us label it horrified-shock. I think that reaction is not productive and can be psychologically scarring, but that just shows that some people are in fact, following William Marx, already "eternal minors", and they cannot be shocked in the artistic manner we are referring to. (Again, I hope I am making sense.)
Indeed! I am reminded of Goya's The Disasters of War plates. The absolute horror and shock they filled me when I saw them at age 16, but when I was older I realized that they are important: they remind of not of the disasters or war, but the horrors of war that our modern people shy too easily away from. It is not easy to look at, but that is the purpose! We should not be so desensitized from them as I am sure he meant to produce them as a warning for all the future viewers.
Thank you so much! I am going to watch it now and then I will respond in our next meeting in the ensuing comments.
Yes I think so too. Other than the things that spectators see right away, white paint and daily movements like walking. I haven't studied it, I just know that there is a dance style called Butoh and some trivia about it.
Yeah, I think your making sense, if I understood you correctly. If someone is offended or so uncomfortable when seeing art they don't like, they perhaps take it too personally or just can not deal with the negative emotions the art makes them feel. They prefer feeling glad, not sad because they can't handle it. Perhaps also generally too in their life.
As for the artist the way to deal with horrible things may be to create art. The assumption then is that the spectator either sees inside the artists head or if it's meant as a statement about the world, will wake up and start thinking and accept the things they feel about the art, not think that the art in any way is a personal attack.
Gruesome and awesome. So terrible but beautiful work.
When terrible things in life don't happen to you, one tends to forget that terrible things do happen all the time. Just to someone else. It's easy to just close your eyes and think about happy things if it's not directly happening to you at that time. And of course if you all the time think about how cruel life is, it would drive you crazy. So it's not just forgetting about the horrors of war or everything that is bad, it's actively forgetting. Choosing to forget. So that's where we also need artists. They (we) are the product of our time. Artists represent the state of the world and remind us all that the world isn't just a happy and sunny teletubbyland. There are also monsters here. And the archeologists digging our remains 500 or 5000 years from now, need to see our war plates.
Exactly yes. Rather than see it as an opportunity to grow and "become better" they prefer to be offended or to try and silence the artist.
Yes! Art is after all a form of communication. If we want to be all romantic about it, we can even go as far as claiming that the artist does not know how to communicate in words, instead, the artist communicates with his or her art. I think this can be all the more relevant with dance and performance art and Butoh. The video you shared in the previous post, the poem the artist voiced in some sense attests to this. Dancing to him is a way of expression, but it might also be seen as a response to the world or anything. I think we are about to write a theory of communicative art if we go deeper into this! 😅
Exactly. Well put! Art in this sense becomes less of communication in the strict sense (yes they can communicate over time like Goya might "communicate" with us), but it is rather "documentation" then. It serves as a warning that surpasses the mere "word". Words of warning from previous generations might warn us, but we do not always listen. Violent "gore" videos of war and disaster might scare us and we might look away or we might even become desensitized, but art is different. In art, we might produce "feelings" and "emotions" that stir the viewer in a certain way to "listen" and "look" differently than merely warning someone or shocking them. There are so many great examples of this, and most of these might be political art of our current times. Again, I hope I am making sense.
Yes absolutely! It's the "vegetables are good for you, eat them" statement. Command = bad, realizing on your own = good. There are people who never grow out of this. Opposing commands for the sake of opposing. Because someone else has given them straight facts or commands but not thinking about it further.
When art is published, put on walls, shows, represented, it is talked about, people seeing it perhaps think about why the art is made and realize things on their own and that usually has a better impact than someone just telling you how things are. Then again people can also just claim that they didn't understand the art or the art was ugly and that they didn't like it.
😀 Indeed. It's easy to go really deep when you love the topic. Get carried away. I am so glad you are just as enthusiastic about this as I am! And I appreciate your long replies so much.
I can write a whole piece on just this statement. People do not think, in my opinion, enough anymore. There is so much focus on (i) replying and (ii) appearance, that thinking becomes laborious and people often want to avoid it at all costs. I think this goes back to our previous comments on people not wanting to feel discomfort etc. But I can go on about this for too long!
True, but I watched something again today on Barthe's essay The death of the author and how this symbolizes the birth of the reader. So not understanding something speaks more about the reader than the author. But meaning, even the absence of meaning, lies with the reader.
The pleasure is all mine! If we had more time on our hands, we could go even deeper. Also, if I had more time to read up on all the theories in art, my own understanding of things would have been even better. But time is valuable and so finite.
I absolutely agree. Too much focus on answering, not listening and thinking. Although some people do expect people to say at least something, which is also in some cases a bit weird. But in a face to face conversation it's vital to know when to listen quietly, when to listen actively (I call saying um, oh, yes, no -words when someone is talking, active listening, although doing that too much is really annoying), when a comment is needed and does that comment need to have any solution to a problem or not. It's tricky but, as you said, if only people would listen more not thinking about what they are going to answer. And face to face conversation is also when an artist is talking with their art. Art / spectator conversation. "Panic! What am I going to say about this art?!"
But when talking about talking in the internet, it also may be that at this informative age, as we now know what someone on the other side of the earth, an some old schoolmate or previous neighbor, and hundreds of other people, say out loud, people who we never meet, only read their comments somewhere, it gives a wider understanding of all the people and about their opinions, and as they are not the people we have chosen to be in our precious bubble, their opinion, (or in this case their way of not thinking about things enough) comes right to our face and we are appalled about the fact and think that people do not think.
At least I am, almost every other day, I read something for instance from Twitter and I think to myself: "Wow, what is wrong with people, if they would just think about this, even a little bit, they would realize stuff and how stupid that sounds / is." And then I crawl back to my bubble that I've made comfy and cozy for me.
Fortunately there are (lots and lots, I believe and hope) like minded people with whom I can have interesting conversations with. Like here, in Hive. Now. :)
Yeah. I know. Me too it seems.
That is absolutely true! Art is so much more than just the painting in the wall, just the performance on the street or an dance show in the TV. It is given to the spectator and the spectator has a huge role in the conversation with the art. So not understanding it may mean that the spectator just doesn't even think. About anything. Because there's no wrong way to comprehend art. Art just is, the artist may or may not have something to say, lets go of the art at some point and from there on, it's the readers or spectators turn.
Oh no, I'm starting to feel like I haven't prepared for our conversation at all, I've just answered how I feel and what I remember reading. See, I felt a pressure to answer correctly so that my answer makes me more important than the fact that I could just listen and think. Oh no. :) We've come to a full circle.
So true, and as you brilliantly linked this to the speech between "art" and "artist" I think you have hit on something interesting here. When should the artist and viewer of an artwork "listen" to said artwork and when should they "reply"? Albeit that we place the artwork on a pedestal, I think that art has something to say beyond that of what the artist intended, but now I wonder how much and when we should respond to that artwork and when we should merely listen.
This will be the hallmark of our society. And who can blame us? I think back to something about the Ancient Greek schooling system I read. I am not 100% if (i) the information is accurate, and (ii) if I remember correctly, so do not quote me on this: the ancient's spent their formation years studying rhetoric and logic as the way in which you (i) present yourself/your argument and (ii) how you argued for said argument was more important than understanding mathematics. Or, understanding math and physics were important only after you mastered dialectics and the art of talking, presenting yourself or your argument. What I am leading to: we as the modern scientific society in some sense turned this around. We emphasize physics and math and neglect how we present these things. This obviously leads to schools also neglecting dialectics and how we use language and present arguments. And with everyone being able to voice an opinion on social media platforms today, emphasis is again on what you say rather than how you say it. Or something like that. Maybe I am making no sense at all!
And here we are again talking about the art and the role of the spectator. I think it fits perfectly in this reply. I will "synthesize" my first and second paragraphs into this third paragraph to respond to this line you presented. Maybe we as a society have neglected our vocabulary to respond to art or to play that role essential role in the conversation. I have ranted in a post on this idea, and I always talk to others about this, but the schools (in South Africa, as this is where I am located) focus so much on "parroting" work rather than understanding work that we are producing people who can remember facts detached from understanding. Or simply put, people are mindless fact machines rather than people characterized by conscious thinking, understanding, and wisdom. I know that this is hovering on wishful thinking, but I see it in my field (philosophy at university). People are struggling to think for themselves and to think period. Linking this back to art: I think people do not have the necessary vocab to engage with art as there is an essential piece of the puzzle missing.
No, please no preparation! It is all about feeling and responding to those feelings. I just like reading and my "to read" list is so long. There are various books on art and how we perceive the world that I want to read. So it was more a declaration from my side than a prescription haha. Sorry for taking so long to reply, I was not in the right headspace the weekend.
I've read this several times and every time I've been trying to answer to this but have been feeling little under the weather lately and can't seem to keep my thoughts together. Fall flu and sore throat. Nothing major though and getting better now.
Perhaps I'll come back to this some day when my brain isn't so foggy.
But I stumbled upon a tweet and I think that sums up part of our conversation really well so I just have to share it here.
https://twitter.com/illustravi_/status/1457532438574354432
Oh, no, I am so sorry to hear. Yes, when you feel under the weather it is not nice to concentrate. Please take your time, and if we never return to it then it is an offering to the gods of art!
And that tweet is really interesting and though provoking. I agree! Thank you so much for sharing.
Love these designs!
Keep them coming!
Thank you so much! I'll try my best. :)
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STOPI demand to know how you traveled back to January 1st 1970.
Uh, sorry. I really should start logging out of the past before I do things in the present. But it's so boring sometimes because there either is no internet at all or it's really slow. So you see it's a bit tempting to multitask and do things in both worlds at the same time, past and the present.
Thanks for clearing that up, I was starting to worry I might have been seeing things...
Yep umbrella academy had it right
Ha! Exactly! I love that series.