All we have to do is SCALE.
Do you think this is going to be difficult?
- The war against the war-machine?
- The battle with Big Tech?
- Destroying debt?
- The confrontation with GMO?
- The pissing contest with Pharmaceuticals?
- The clash against the prison industrial complex?
- The engagement with poverty?
- The conflict with corporations?
- Guerilla tactics against government?
- The fray with fiat?
- The clash against centralization itself?
- Reclaiming the means of production?
So many ways to disagree violently.
When we add up everything crypto is being stacked up against, it looks very bleak and completely impossible. People who are about to hike up Mount Everest aren't like, "Yeah I can do this no sweat." It's daunting and must be taken one step at a time.
But none of that really matters.
We do not have to dismantle the legacy economy. In fact, dismantling the legacy economy would be bad for everyone. Nobody wants that. It doesn't serve a purpose. In fact, we should be working to prop up this failing system so we have more time to make the transition to a better one.
At the end of the day, all crypto has to do to win: is scale. That's it. We scale we win; it really is as simple as that. Venture Capitalists and Corporate Executives and Investors and Leaders have all been searching for this one thing. How can I scale up?
- Scaling up means more volume.
- Scaling up means more efficiency.
- Scaling up means more money.
- Scaling up means more progress.
The problem with scaling up is that once you get to a certain point the foundations start to crumble and corruption sets in. We can see that the maximum size a corporation can scale to is about two million people. And again: that is the MAX. That is like, okay you got 2M people in there but your system is trash and on the verge of collapse and it can't scale anymore. Crypto can scale much much larger with strong foundations on flatter architecture.
The problem with flat architecture, is leadership.
Actually, there are a lot of problems, but governance is a glaring one. If no one is in charge, how can we get followers on the same page working together to build something great? The answer is so complicated I could write a book on it, and even then I'd probably be wrong in many instances. The fact remains: it is very very difficult to scale up flat-architecture.
Fix the scaling issue, fix the world!
It becomes clear that we don't have to fight the legacy systems. The legacy systems are buckling under the pressure of their own weight already. If you destroy the Matrix, you destroy everyone in the Matrix. That's 99.9999% of the population. Not a good idea, unless the plan is to lead a cult in a post-apocalyptic future where you're running around impregnating girls half your age and torturing your enemies Game-of-Thrones style. Not exactly something anyone plans for really! These things just happen!
Jokes aside.
We don't have to fight anyone. All we have to do is build a better system. That's what a lot of these 'communists' and 'socialists' and 'anarcho-capitalists' don't get. If you want a better system: build a better system. No one is standing in the way. Do it: we're waiting.
oops, you failed... get lost!
All these revolutionaries in the world fail to understand that the world operates like it does for a reason. This is it! This is the best we could do. Pretty sad, but also pretty good. Netflix is fabulous. Running water is a miracle (seriously). Even plastic bottles and ball-point pens are quite impressive. Bring one of those items back 1000 years and see what people say about it.
How did you print perfect lettering on this plastic bottle?
This is water-proof and floats?
How does the cap fit on there so perfectly?
It's flexible?
This is obviously worth at least as much as an entire pig!
For frame of reference a pig purchased at a local farm would cost you at least $500 these days, and a plastic bottle would cost you $0 because it's garbage. That is the magic of technology, abundance, and centralized control/direction via imperialism/capitalism.
But (un)fortunately, imperialism has done scaled as high as it's going to get. We can stack this pyramid no taller. A pyramid is a very resilient shape but requires an exponentially large foundation to increase in size. We've run out of foundation. The middle class is disappearing. Everyone knows that a strong middle class is the backbone of a strong economy. Crypto fixes this.
But it fixes it in a very weird way that we currently barely understand.
Why do we not understand cooperative open-source economy?
Because our current economy is the exact opposite of that.
Permissioned IP ownership and open-source don't mix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=C8sSEiAaTiY&ab_channel=RussellBrand
This is the video that prompted this post.
This was posted by 3SPEAK on Twitter.
Still need to do a post about Russel Brand & Joe Rogan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=C8sSEiAaTiY&ab_channel=RussellBrand
So in this video we see this old-school socialist/communist Yanis Varoufakis try to describe how socialism would be implemented, and how once implemented, it would destroy capitalism. Seeing this perspective from such an old-school player reminds me how insanely complicated this "solution" truly is.
Now it's also important to mention that Russel Brand is really taking a big risk here, because he's managed to get a lot of support from the right recently by calling out all the craziness going on in the world right now. He's even been labeled a QANON conspiracy theorist at this point even though, like me, he comes from a radical left-wing background. So when he tries to engage in a discussion of socialism with such a diverse group, gotta hand it to him that is pretty ballsy.
How do you do it without the all-powerful state that eventually becomes corrupted?
Greedy, self-seeking politicians...
How would markets work?
Imagine a corporate structure with no management.
(This is not a fiction; these exist)
No bosses... completely flat management.
Everyone did what they wanted to do.
How do projects get done?
"We have an INTRAnet."
"I want to work on that who wants to work with me?"
How do you decide who to hire?
[Nominations combined with company-wide vote.]
What about compensation? You can't pay everyone the same.
[Allocate money for fixed expenses]
[Allocate money for R&D]
[Everyone gets a base-pay (passive-income/UBI)]
[Everyone votes on bonuses] (no self-voting) ("brownie points")
Capitalism theoretically collapses if enough companies do this.
[no wages; all profit sharing]
[impossible to buy shares: elimination of share/stock markets]
[individual companies decentralize into smaller parts]
And if the central bank... imagine the central bank was to give each one of you... a free digital bank account. What is the point of having an account with [a retail bank]? Retail banking collapses.
Meritocratic Democracy...
HM!
Gee boss, sounds kind of familiar!
The only thing that Hive doesn't have is universal basic income, because in order to have UBI, as I have already described recently, we must all be working in the same physical location (a certain type of KYC identification is required). This is the 'only' way to prevent Sybil attack, as one person would act like multiple people in order to scoop multiple UBI incomes.
But as we all know, Hive takes this socialist idea and multiplies it by infinity. How? HIVE IS THE CENTRAL BANK. We don't need no central bank to give us an account. Bitch please, we ARE the central bank! Once old-school socialists realize what is going on here their minds are going to be full-on blown.
As @threespeak has already pointed out this system already exists on Hive, and it is already superior in pretty much every way described. Hive gets the best of both worlds in terms of socialism and capitalism, and how that system interacts with the legacy economy. Our votes are unhackable, and can be issued anytime anyplace. One person one vote is a thing of the past; coin voting is the future (and that's fine).
The future of communism is not equality; it's equity.
Just look what I have personally been able to achieve here given like zero resources. I worked for Amazon for 4 years part time, making $12k a year. Now I magically have a quarter million dollars of Hive alone. I'm a scrapper, and I'm always going to be a scrapper. Even if we all got paid the same (communism) I'd be able to allocate that capital a thousand times better than my peers and ascend the ranks exponentially. That's just how it is.
This is why I constantly make claims about how crypto and Hive are communist/socialist. Because they obviously are. Unfortunately, these are bad words that society will not accept, but never fear, because calling it anarcho-capitalism is just as good.
On one side, we have anarchy.
Many misinterpret anarchy to mean no government and no rules.
But as Andreas Antonopoulos so graciously explains:
Anarchy is rules WITHOUT rulers.
That is all.
And crypto allows us to automate out the rulers, slowly but surely.
And then we have capitalism.
And capitalism is the status quo, so it's not a difficult pitch.
Therefore anarcho-capitalism is a great compromise for everyone.
Does matter if you're anarchist, capitalist, communist, or socialist.
Even kings and queens will agree with anarcho-capitalism if they personally receive more power within the new system. Which sounds incorrect but it's not, because the new system is so much bigger than the old one that much more power exists to be claimed in the first place. Who wants to terraform Mars? Who wants to visit other solar systems? Who wants to give every Mormon their own planet? All this and more can be yours in the attention economy, where people are the highest form of collateral available.
Conclusion
Once again, competition is being projected into this new thing that doesn't even have borders. How can a market be cornered if the market doesn't have corners? How can the Metaverse be owned by Facebook if the Metaverse is a massive polylithic living entity bigger than the current Internet and the economy combined? Clearly, our understanding of what is actually going on here is extremely limited. The first step in venturing out into this new environment is admitting we have no idea what's going on. Try not to get eaten by a lion, would ya?
We don't have to compete!
We just have to not die within this massive emergent environment.
Good luck to the legacy system, ya gonna need it.
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If it wasn't for crypto, I think imperialism could have scaled even higher. The tower could have got even taller. Some entities/people/orgs just don't have limits. But things are slowly changing.
Love that ☝ really love that!
Ok, not to be a party pooper here. But there are way to many people that are completely brainwashed and are followers of the wrong people that only want more money and power. They aren’t for the people. While crypto no doubt could be a part of the solution, the problem is that most of the people that make the decisions are over 60 and don’t believe in it. Unless those minds are changed in a positive way, there’s no way it will work.
Crypto won't work because Boomers are making all the decisions?
That's exactly why it will work.
There is no competition.
These systems govern themselves.
Crypto provides more money and power... for everyone.
Not seeing the conflict here.
But they have to know how to use it and they aren’t interested in anything but stopping it.
The boomers are not a problem in the crypto sphere. There's not as many boomers involved as there are people younger than us boomers. I think that's good thing, because the boomers had their day, and the just continued to pollute the world in the same way as the generation before them.
I'm at the tail end of the boomer generation, and I can clearly see the damage that was done to the environment and economies of the world by greedy boomers. As in any generation, not all boomers were greedy and power hungry, but the ones who were grabbed all the mechanisms of power.
What? you literally only need a couple million people using a scaled up superior governance structure to dominate the entire legacy system.
Look at walmart. 2 million employees and most are totally powerless. create a system of 1 million powerful individuals and see what happens
you do understanding you wasting your time having a conversation with this guy? lol
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I'll give you plastic bottles and ball point pens (if accompanied by post-it pads), but water is gonna run and netflix suX! 😜
Wow! Reading this just kept putting a smile on my face, I could only think of , what if I couldn't find my steem keys? returning back to hive this past three months has helped me alot. The solution is just there all along. I'm thankful I found hive.
Even with the odds stacked against crypto, it's still counting in years! I can say the government won't stop trying, but I'm not concerned. I'm just scaling through and thankful.
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No.
An-crap is a thing, and that thing is an oxymoron.
Anybody that has done a thorough examination of the subject will tell you the same.
An-com original thesis.
A less academic illustration.
These were written ~100 years ago.
If a political solutions exists, but you never heard of it, does that mean it doesn't exist for anybody else, either?
In an information war, if you don't have the information, you lose.
No need to inform you of that as no person is more perfectly enslaved than the person that falsely thinks themselves free.
The corporate flashylight box, nor other corporate sources of information, will ever give you these ideas.
Jesus Christ why is everyone so obsessed with what we decide to call this fucking thing?
The preconceived notions of what shape these things are going to take within a completely emergent unpredictable permissionless environment is fucking mind blowing. Putting a label on something doesn't change what that thing is.
Calling something an-cap doesn't suddenly make it whatever you think that means.
Or did you completely miss the bit where I called the exact same system socialism and communism and capitalism all at once?
so fucking tilted right now.
Semantics are important.
I'm just defending words that have been co-opted to hide the doorway out of wage slavery.
Unless we agree on what words mean we can't really reach equipoise.
We end up running over ground that has already been plowed.
The books I linked already solved most of the issues with the current political situation, but nobody knows that because they don't take the time to read arcane books.
Before I get locked into a box, I should state that I use these as outlines, and not gospel.
You have to decide right and wrong for yourself.
It's going to be a while before the average person jumps in though. However there is no stopping technology so the legacy system won't be able to stop things forever. They can delay things though.
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GM!
We should invite more languages to hive, for faster scaling. Otherwise, we see forks at some point. Russian, Japanese, Chinese, Indian and so on.
Could be tribes IMO.
anarcho capitalism will need way more time to work out :P In times of politic fud, i cant imagine that happens anytime soon :P
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I disagree. All the points you make neglect the elephant in the room: censorship. Absent the ability to speak freely, no wealth exists. Particularly crypto is facile to censor of available monetary mechanisms. Come up with mesh networks independent of, or capable of persisting despite any restraint, and I would agree. Absent that ability, crypto can just be cancelled.
Thanks!
I believe Hive can give me what ever amount I want, I don't need any central bank to give me money. Hive can give me everything I want.
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Scaling up in every aspect of life is what keeps you going and going forward. You really digged deep in this post I love it. For example hive is a good one, the more you put in your best to it the more you grow and move high. Merry Christmas in advance dear friend.
Edicted, let me ask you a serious question. Are you pretending to be dumb? I feel like you trying to manipulate us into you having reasons to make money off us because you think we dumber than you or something? So is that what it is or are you really brainwashed as well. I know the people don't know any better who follow your threads. That's not their fault that's just they been confused by people like you, lol. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. They'll follow the system for a few pennies but still this is not good.
I'm going to act like you don't know any better though. I'm just gonna do that and approach it that way. Firstly i'd say Vitalik and Russell Brand are too smart to think Hive has anything to do with dealing with any of these issues. So just like you say the reason the system works like it does... it's reasons why socialism and communism in your view doesn't work.
Why can't i say the reason Russell Brand and Vitalik won't give hive the respect it's due is maybe because they understand hive is full of crap in your narrative. Could that be a reason why hive is a coin can never stay in the top 100, let you all tell it it's the best thing since sliced bread. Funny the biggest people in crypto that talk the same game you all talk don't see it that way.
So what am i suppose to take from that. Should i reason that people on hive are somehow smarter than the rest of the crypto space? Should i reason Antonopolous too dumb to know of the existence of hive, lol. You see where i'm going with this. Hive is feeling like a bunch of bullshit to me. Now that doesn't mean there aren't some idea things about hive that works. However it does mean those things clearly aren't enough to convince people several levels more intelligent than most of you all that it is.
You mentioned ubi and said it wouldn't work on hive. You lack vision and imagination and brain power i think lol. Let me suggest a solution bitcoin myk found on this. Why would i need your identity if i base ubi on a time factor and not a identity factor?
Why would i need a specific level of kyc when i can base ubi on matching social media profiles. There are also now third party kyc services that are decentralized and don't even need your id to prove you're a unique person on the chain. Hive could use such a system many chains are doing that now. decentralized id where the data doesnt end up in anyones hands and they don't even need to really develop the system. It already exist and other chains use it.
Let me tell you what i think it is. I think you all who benefit from bullshit narratives want to keep those narratives because they serve you all right now. Doesn't serve the rest of us adn Russell Brand would figure hive out in about 5 minutes. So why is it that you people on hive lack the intelligence to understand we're not that dumb.
I've already indicated this that hive only saving grace would be something like bitcoin myk. It doesn't have to be bitcoin myk. I"m a ubi purist do you understand what that means? I'm sure this is something many of you all can't fathom because you aren't evolved civilized human beings to even understand this concept.
however, did you know that most people in the ubi community don't even care if there product succeeds or not. that is because if one succeeds they all succeed. Which makes complete sense if you think about it. so ubi communities don't even care which ones win. we can all work together and support one another.
it is your perverted and evil misguided idea about competition and dog eat dog and what needs to occur to have some rich and poor people. That's your idea and that's why vitalik and russell and many others who have the mental aptitude to understand this will never support your oligarchy baloney, lol. That's what that is.
Now when you say ubi won't work.. Do you consider that facebook has gotten trillions of dollars from citizens based on a false idea. That idea is that their network is worth trillions of dollars because they give us false numbers of accounts every year. When we know some are bots and fake accounts. We're paying facebook based on fraud and it's legal and it doesn't technically make it less valuable. As facebooks' network effect is still so great that is miniscule in the idea of can a person get an account by.
if a ubi project is set up like bitcoin myk and al the things i said earlier. Completely based on freemium services and scales by being multichain and piggybacking off every other major chain. Our network will still grow so large and valuable to talk about fake and duplicate accoutns would be a ridiculous as talking about the value of facebook should be less because it has bot accounts and duplicate accounts and blah blah blah.
You're thinking small scale network hive level bullshit. of can we keep half a billion dollars in value which is absolutely bird feed traded amongst maybe the same 10k people i see everyday as i highly doubt hive even has 1 million active users. You can't think at a high enough level to understand this thing.
I'm a patient man and i'm a long term investor friend. i don't need my projects to make money in a year, or 5 or maybe even 10 for them to be successful. So i would rate ubi projects like bitcoin myk on the questions it answers and if they make sense, because let me tell you something friend.
There may come a time when everyone goes full stop and begins to ask you questions like that. When you give a bullshit answer like you do on your threads. Guess what they going to do? That's right they going to seek out the people with the better answers. Now i could educate you on the right answers. however i believe you already know what they are. YOu just want to in your primitive way pick up your rocks and stones and false sense of value and think thats worth something. It's not worth anything lol. that's what you wanna do because you don't understand what true value is
I"m going to show you though what true value is. YOu do well not to respond to me. You know i'd shut you down in 5 seconds. This is going to end very soon. that keynesian economics of yester year all your false ideas of capitalism and all the trash that ensues that allows you all justification to run your stupid systems..
Are you really that dumb to believe you can convince someone like Elon Musk, Russell Brand or Vitalik you're right and i'm wrong? I'll wait, i know you don't believe that crap and let me tell you why? Elon Musk said we're going to need UBI
Vitalik has recently funded a ubi project on ethereum called proof of humanity. Zuckerberg gave this long bullshit speech about we need to do ubi. jack dorsey already donates the most on record so far to ubi. You already know Russell Brand wouldn't follow this community 2 inches up the road. Why do you all keep talking like hive is going to change the world. Only way that happens it has to be a project like bitcoin myk. You all not doing anything to change the world.
One last point. it's called a robot economy einstein, look it up. You all are delusional lol. haha.
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Wow! What a needlessly long rant that somehow still doesn't even explain a quarter of the topics involved. You insulted my intelligence and credibility over a dozen times. You make completely contradictory statements like you have patience but then proceed to channel the tone of a college undergrad know-it-all. Definitely very hard to take this comment seriously, but I'll try anyway.
First of all, I don't know if you've seen Russel Brand's post on Bitcoin, but he is COMPLETELY CLUELESS about blockchain. He even makes fun of himself for reading an explanation for children and not understanding any of it. Andreas Antonopoulos is largely a maximalist and doesn't really factor into this conversation at all.
You're really taking my entire message out of context. Saying I don't approve of UBI? Really? I just finished a multi-post series about the importance of communism and socialism in crypto. I meticulously describe how UBI would be implemented multiple times. Like, I'm not sure what posts your reading but you're obviously just getting triggered on statements taken out of context and knee-jerk reacting to them and then simultaneously turning around and acting like a petulant child while making claims that you're some philosopher-king. Seriously, you look ridiculous, and it's on the blockchain forever. Not a good look for you.
I've got a big big hint for you.
Any social media site connected to blockchain is going to look like hammered dog shit. Social media is a lawless clusterfuck of dipshits blathering on about whatever they feel like. No one on the outside is going to look at flag wars and bernie sanders posting pictures of his own shit a thousand times and be like "hm, yes, of course, this is the future... how did I not see it!?"
At the end of the day theory must be implemented in reality for Hive to be taken seriously. You let me know when you're done bullshitting and actually create solution. Until then you're just as full of shit as everyone else
Well i think i expect too much from you all. I would imagine guys discussing quantitative easing and inflation would find it quite easy to decipher what it is exactly i'm saying. if the topic of your post is about needing to scale. My assumption is that if you know why you're not scaling and if specifically address those issues. Then the results would be more favorable i assume.
You have to know why you don't scale in order to scale. I would imagine you'd find out why it's only about 2-3% of the people in the financial sector involved with crypto. What about ask them why? Has anyone thought to do that? lol. I'll make it simple and explain everything this post. After you ask them and they tell you the reasons why. You form a solution directly addressing those reasons.
if someone goes well i don't understand a crypto wallet. Then why not develop a wallet they do understand? if a person goes well i use crypto to purchase anything or it's not important. Then you find a way to incentivize them. You don't go start a pet grooming biz for example and put blockchain in the title or build games for people that aren't gamers. I'm not saying games on the blockchain are bad they do contribute to growth of crypto. However specifically you deal with the problems at hand as far as education etc.,
I think ranting is what a person who fights for the people does. For example no real change ever came quietly in a corner some place. You have to deal with the people who are causing the problem right?
Well let me say this about Russel Brand. First of all i think Russel is a good human being. i think he understands the most important parts of the blockchain. That being people are more important than the system. Nothing ever done or created in humanity should ever be more important than the people.
So in that sense i think Russel understands blockchain a great deal better than most of you all. He at the very least understands what it means for a man to be free and certainly doesn't confuse it for the neofeudalistic systems you all refer to as capitalism. In which you then go and bring it to the blockchain to further oppress us here, lol. Oh i think Russel understands the blockchain quite well.
I read the post. However you see Edicted to me you're one of those people who do alot of lip service. I talk and rant but i feel like you talk and really don't say anything to people of value because your actions don't back it up. You're one of the poster boys for everything wrong in crypto right now. How much crypto do you have in comparison to the average hive member?
Are you somehow what smarter than everyone else on the system? Would Bernie of Steem fame believe any of that? lol. So i look at your actions not what you say. You're steadily lining your pockets you aren't helping anybody or solving this problem. How many of these so called ubi blockchain projects that we need have you supported?
Vitalik has given millions of dollars to ubi projects. Many more have through foundational work and supported such systems. The very same Vitalik who won't touch hive with a 10ft pole however you all think somehow you know better than the market. Somehow you know better than everyone else and you're like a 130 place coin or something can never break or stay in the top 100 in the entire crypto spaces opinion. You guys somehow in your delusion because some of you make a few bucks. Still believe you have the answer. In your bubbles nobody else believes it in the entire space but you all.
Well somehow through my ranting i managed to fund and develop with my own money. A platform you all can use absolutely free that has a curation system that i believe to be the answer. That is automated and where you can manually upvote but its not necessary and the system runs on democracy and equality. Now it's best to experience it. However what i don't like about hive. is they'll rather argue with me over just try the system and see if it solves any of the problems we speak of. I think maybe because they are full of shit. .they talk without even trying the system. I'd atleast try it first then criticize it if i found something wrong. These guys don't even try it and so yea maybe that's why sometimes i can seem condescending but not that it's not warranted, lol.
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TLDR
So I'll just skim it and point out the most obvious fictional statement.
Yeah I guess you don't know how this works then.
I have pumped exponentially more value into this network than I have extracted from it.
You are making the claim that I am a leech.
When it's so obvious that I've brought a ton of value to this network.
And I plan on continuing to do so.
Again, you can not be taken seriously because you lack even basic understanding of the situation.
You undermine everything you say with your own painfully obvious ignorance.
So what's the point of even addressing anything else?
Waste of my time.
Lucky for you I have a very short memory.
So in a year I won't even remember this little interaction.
I wonder how many other conversations I've had with you that I've already blissfully discarded.
Feel free to actually do something useful and constructive and I'll probably jump in on it unquestioningly.
Hey take it easy man....you all take things too personal.
i'm just doing my job fighting for the people. My job is"..... who's my employer? that is the question, lol.
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