Tyson Fury defeats Deontay Wilder in an all out boxing WAR (bonus unexpected rant as I wrote this)
I'm not like a hug boxing guy, but I do enjoy it. I've been an athlete throughout much of my life, and I've watched sports and MMA eagerly throughout my life. What I can say is that, this trilogy is special. Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder are special fighters man. They are a magical matchup. They were meant to fight.
This fight reminded me of an MMA match and it was just awesome. These dude were absolutely smashing each other.
They were stunning each other frequently, viciously. Knocking each other down. There was probably like five or six knockdowns between them? At one point Deontay knocked Tyson down twice in a row in the same round!
Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder. Both pretty memorable, unique names. Anyway....
It feels like throughout the trilogy people kind of sort of expected Deontay to win. Deontay is faster, more athletic, has a more potent one punch knockout power, and he has a more leaner type of magazine cover build, at least compared to dad bod Tyson Fury. I don't mean to say Fury has like a terrible body though, the dude clearly packs a lot of muscle.
Tyson on the other hand, seems to be more of a warrior overall. His mental game and composure seems better than Deontay's. Tyson is the bigger and more skilled man also.
NEWSFLASH: SIZE MATTERS
Man, when I write about combat sports or even football, I am always talking about size.
I know there is a soft ass feminist soy boy beta bitch out there that wants to say that size does not matter, but I mean get over yourself bro.
Even in yesterday's UFC main event, the bigger girl in Marina Rodriguez defeated Mackenzie Dern.
Of course size does not ALWAYS MATTER. I am not stupid. But I believe on average in the grand scheme of combat sports, the bigger opponent wins more often. The fighter or perhaps player when it comes to physical, agressive/close contact/combat-like sports, that is bigger also has a higher chance of having a longer career in their said sport.
OF COURSE this theory mostly applies when there is an overall stalemate in other aspects of the sport. Like skill and speed etc.
When fighters are SO evenly matched the heavier and larger opponent has a better chance at victory.
Sorry science freaks I don't have data to back this one up, but I'm generalizing here ooooooo naughty.
But I mean look at Fury and Wilder. These dudes were neck and neck, but then oh wait, Fury is like 40 more pounds than Wilder....
I just had to get that off my chest. Smaller individuals can absolutely succeed in sports I am not saying that they can't. There are countless athletes that have achieved unbelievable success in all types of sports.
But I believe when smaller athletes succeed it is so much more marketable, and everyone loves an underdog story. So they praise the smaller successful athlete and sort of roll there eyes when a larger athlete succeeds because 'they were supposed to'.
This topic annoys me because people don't just praise a smaller athlete for succeeding in the big bad world of sports, but it's like as soon as one does, it's like they are the next great athlete of the generation.
When larger athletes succeed, it's just not impressive to these insecure fucks, honestly this shit annoys me man.
EQUALITY IN SPORTS YO.
Steph Curry is awesome. Lebron or Giannis wins though, was it really the same in sports MSM?
If Kyler Murray wins the Super Bowl, he will be instantly compared to the NFL GOATS I PROMISE YOU.
Small athletes entering proffesional leagues are so hyped up sometimes. An injury happens and every analyst under the sun debates the injury but rarely is the obvious brought up that the player is SMALL.
Tom Brady, other than his lack of sheer jaw-dropping athleticism, is a big dude. People still just hate on that man. (Incoming hE CheATEd BrO!!!!)
All great athletes of all shapes and sizes should be recognized.
There are a lot of big people that never became athletes, just because an athlete is bigger does not mean it's easy to become a pro, or a pro champion.
***If I didn't make it clear, this whole 'size' rant mostly pertains to like Combat sports. American Football, rugby. MMA, boxing. Those sort of sports.
I just feel like people straight up ignore size and pretends it doesn't matter. That's like completely retarded to me, and I think I'm so upset by it because this type of logic leaks into society in a number of surprising ways.....
Anyway one final thought about the victor, Tyson Fury is that I find him awesome and pretty relatable. He has dealt with mental problems and is unafraid to speak about his love of Jesus. Pretty awesome stuff.
I think the dude should retire. Unless he still wants some more money, in that case ya know, go for it dude lol.
What were your thoughts on this fight?
Tyson Fury is officially a GOAT. Good stuff!
Much respect to Deontay for giving it his all AND THEN SOME. He really fought admirably. He has an awesome style to watch and I hope as long as he is healthy and has the desire he continues to prosper in the sport!
Your comparison to a MMA fight is spot on and something I also commented during last nights awesome brawl. That’s is what a heavyweight boxing match between two champs should look like! On the other hand you have Anthony Joshua who lost his belts because he was unwilling to lose face by possibly being knocked out.
It’s amazing to see the journey Tyson Fury has been on and I’m not talking about his mental health, what I mean is the way he’s transformed himself as a boxer. In his early days his form was awful and I was a big critic of this. Now though you gotta give credit when it’s due and Tyson is now an all time great boxer and showman. I think Tyson will eventually end his career with two more fights, one to capture the belts from tysk and the last fight to finish off ANthony J.
McGregor's wild event vs Mayweather, Mayweather and now Fury/Wilder have really got me into boxing more than I ever was before, and I think I appreciate why the sport can be exciting.
If Fury can beat those two fighters, it would be an awesome career!!!
Thanks a lot for commenting and sharing your enthusiasm!
I don't think you can bring size into this as this is the heavyweight. When Holyfield became champion he was on the light side and a borderline heavyweight having stepped up from the previous weight division. The Heavyweight division right now is a joke as there is no one who is a dominant force and ruling the roost. Wilder has been pampered and is more of a showman than a boxer. I never watched this fight as they just don't spark any interest.
I disagree with some of that, size absolutely matters when skills are mostly a stalemate. Like I said there always exceptions to the rule. I personally believe its very obvious in this fight size mattered. It wasn't the only thing that mattered. Wilder and Fury each had even skillsets in this fight overall. They were knocking each other down at will. But Fury got it done in the end. If size did not matter, there would not be weight classes.
Fury - 6'9 280-ish pounds
Wilder 6'7 240 pounds-ish
2 of the three fights were razor close. Size played a role I believe.
I believe it's a compliment to Fury about his size. Not many men his size can reach the top of their sport without being overly clumsy or slow, it's impressive I believe.
I can't argue about past fighters of different eras, so I suppose that you make a good point. All I can do is appreciate the moment.
Honestly thanks for you comment and opinion!! Much respect!
Yes I get that with the size difference but at heavyweight you need technique along with punching power. Remember Butterbean as he was useless and was bigger or twice as bigger than many of his opponents and he was out boxed. There speed and technique overcame size. In rugby size matters depending on the position you play as trust me I have come up against guys when I deemed it unfair but saying that would have the edge in certain areas they wouldn't. Reach is a big thing in boxing plus being able to have a knockout punch. If you are smaller and shorter like a Tyson then you have to get in on the inside but if you don't have a punch like many of the boxers don't have around today you are screwed. Joshua is a prime example as has everything size, power but he has a glass jaw and everyone knows that now. Size and power are obviously an advantage and yes make a huge difference and should overcome smaller boxers if they have the skill sets.
At the end of the day having the heart of a fighter is key. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and opinions! You do make some good valid points!
Butter Bean and Mike Tyson are definitely good examples! Sometimes smaller fighters/players do have certain key advantages like lower center of gravity, that's true. In wrestling, smaller sturdy stocky wrestlers were at times frustrating to compete with. They literally felt nearly impossible to pushover LOL. Being well balanced is normally the best route to victory!
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Generally speaking I don't even like boxing and find it boring for the most part but that was an absolute WAR from start to finish. I haven't seen a heavyweight fight this entertaining in many years and honestly, until the 10th it looked like it could have gone either way.
I totally agree! Very well put. I think it's interesting how MMA is a big part of the mini boxing rebirth. That fight was just special! Sometimes two men are just meant to fight one another, it's just fireworks. I don't think I'll be forgetting this one anytime soon.
Mannnnnn, now that was a boxing match! I was unfortunate enough to not see it live, but what an absolute epic that was! Some of the hits and knock downs! Like heavy weight battles of old!
No doubt it was an honor to watch, both men should be very proud! Unforgettable!
Man, the fight was one of the most entertaining fight I watched in a long time, not a boxing specialist, but as a MMA fan, it was everything I was hoping for!
Nice rant hahaha
Yeah man, I kind of want so own a copy of the fight, perhaps the whole trilogy. Cool to hear you enjoyed it too! Thanks hahahahha :)
Hi, I didn't see the dudes as being neck to neck, then an extra 40pounds of weight did the trick.Nope please watch again.
A closer look will reveal that Fury was ahead in body movement,ring management,match plan(which meant closing the space between them and thus making Wilder's magic right hand less effective) and landing punches.
Ofcourse using his weight was part of the strategy- it was intentional he put on weight for this fight. But Fury has always used his weight as an advantage because he knows how to– not every heavyweight his size and weight can do this: IT IS A UNIQUE SKILL.
Please here is my post, to appreciate some more on the difference. Happy viewing guys:
https://peakd.com/hive-101690/@ogeewitty/chronicles-of-a-great-all-time-bout
I mean Wilder dropped Fury twice and almost finished him
Dropping him twice is not in question. "Almost finishing him" is a subjective view. Another person can say Fury "almost finished" Wilder many times in that bout.
Your analysis of things is quite good,infact excellent most times,just some little rough edges, eg "Deontay is faster, more athletic, has a more potent one punch knockout power,.."
You can't say Wilder is faster, no one says that in boxing circles. Fury is faster,infact that is his strong point. Please see my fresh post to help on this—https://peakd.com/hive-101690/@ogeewitty/chronicles-of-a-great-all-time-bout.
That a boxer is fat and lanky doesn't mean he is slow,speed in boxing is something else,people like the retired Oscar de la Hoya,Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather jnr are speed merchants. Usyk who beat Anthony Joshua recently beat him essentially because he was faster than Joshua,apart from the punches he packed. PLS SEE MY POST ABOVE.
Yeah you can say Wilder is more athletic,or better put MORE ATHLETICALLY BUILT, NOT more athletic,if we must be accurate. Heavyweight boxing has it's standards on athlectism,that you are built like RoboCop doesn't necessarily make you more athletic.
But ofcourse you are spot-on, when you talk about Wilder having the more potent one punch knock-out(and most other aspects of your write-up too), It is beyond question in boxing circles too. My post encapsulates all these.
Cheers
Dropping him twice is not in question. "Almost finishing him" is a subjective view. Another person can say Fury "almost finished" Wilder many times in that bout.
Your analysis of things is quite good,infact excellent most times,just some little rough edges, eg "Deontay is faster, more athletic, has a more potent one punch knockout power,.."
You can't say Wilder is faster, no one says that in boxing circles. Fury is faster,infact that is his strong point. Please see my fresh post to help on this—https://peakd.com/hive-101690/@ogeewitty/chronicles-of-a-great-all-time-bout.
That a boxer is fat and lanky doesn't mean he is slow.Speed in boxing is something else,maybe not so in MMA,people like the retired Oscar de la Hoya,Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines and Floyd Mayweather jnr are speed merchants. Usyk who beat Anthony Joshua recently beat him essentially because he was faster than Joshua,apart from the punches he packed. PLS SEE MY POST ABOVE.
Yeah you can say Wilder is more athletic,or better put MORE ATHLETICALLY BUILT, NOT more athletic,if we must be accurate. Heavyweight boxing has it's standards on athleticism,that you are built like 'RoboCop' doesn't necessarily make you more athletic.
But ofcourse you are spot-on, when you talk about Wilder having the more potent one punch knock-out(and most other aspects of your write-up too), It is beyond question in boxing circles too. My post encapsulates all these.
Cheers
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