RE: When was the last time you checked your witness votes? Was it the Steem/Hive hard fork? Or Never?

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Following on from Truthforce's comment.. I just want to add that while many people have no clue of the extent of the corruption and manipulation that is present via mainstream media sources and by extension also the bigger internet sources - the reality is that everything possible (short of mass executions of dissenters) is being done to try to silence any commentary that gains traction which contradicts the lies being sold by the corporatocracies on this planet.

We have an issue, then, on Hive - where many people know that all of this is occurring, but many do not. Many here have had personal experience from both inside and outside of the mind control systems on this planet and they want to fix the Earth to create a more honest, free and happy future for us. However, many seem to have no idea this is transpiring and of course some here - just based on statistics - will be part of the group who are actively trying hard to get everyone to deny reality in order to cover up their crimes against humanity.

There really is a war on for your mind and it is longstanding and has been heavily funded for many generations. The situation is very much like the movie 'The Matrix', where just about anyone can get caught up in the matrix of false reality they were fed from birth and then fail to see or care about what is right in front of their eyes.

All of this means we have a difficult situation where mass downvoting to suppress the spread of information online can be hand waved away as just 'disagreements on rewards' and any attempt to argue against this can be just said to be 'the greed of terrible people' etc.

Equally, downvoting that isn't specifically to suppress information can end up looking like it is being done for that purpose and this adds fuel to the fire.

All along I have been asking for restraint and care when downvoting for ideological reasons because it can cause so many problems that can usually be solved in a more intelligent, social and friendly way - e.g. through conversation. In all cases that we are protesting here, there was zero attempt at any conversation or friendliness - no quiet word to say that there is an issue and maybe we can sort it out by agreeing x/y/z or having a friendly public debate on key issues. Instead it was just full on assault, over and over - mixed in with sneering ridicule, scorn and lies. This is all I personally need to know to have a good sense of what is occurring and it is not healthy at all.

Just like the people facing off against the cops in so many cities of the world - the cops are fighting for a paycheque but the people are fighting for freedom and their future. So obviously, those seeking freedom are not really going to give up. One way or another we will find workable solutions here. Despite what anyone might think, I personally just want the situation to resolve as painlessly as possible for all and I genuinely want to help Hive to grow to be the best it can be in all ways - so there is really no need for drama - yet here we are, dealing with drama that it was not possible to avoid without leaving the entire network, which is exactly what some of the downvoters have told me personally to do! Without a shred of evidence or even explanation as to why they are right.. This is simply bullying that in most cases this would not be tolerated - yet, due to the stake weighting and lack of community uproar, it continues on. In a sense it is understandable, in this climate, that there isn't much of a community response as yet, since the atmosphere is not really one that a lot of people would want to defend or improve! However, I still hold a high vision for the future of Hive and I still intend to do everything possible to bring it to manifestation.

If you personally care about real community spirit, the truth coming to light, healthy change for Earth and the creation of a better world, then please consider listening to Kenny's info above and do what you can to help resolve this issue - whether it be through social negotiation, changing witness votes, delegating to relevant parties or through whatever other creative solution you are excited to explore!

Wishing you well,
Ura-Soul



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Yeah, it's kind of hard to reason with someone who just says, " I downvote anything mentioning downvotes." It's only comply or else, which isn't going to cut it.

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I wasn't even thinking of that when I wrote the above, but yes, that's another example. It's like a politician saying "I represent your interests, but if I hear you talking about taxation issues I'm going to raise taxes". lol

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Taxes will be raised until morale inproves!

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seems reasonable - taxes, like downvotes, serve the community - it follows that obviously joy will not be far behind.

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healthy change for Earth and the creation of a better world

I cannot take this seriously. I also find it difficult to bite my tongue on this one as well. The ridiculousness of such lines. Is this supposed to be an election for a new god? If we do what Kenny says, the world will be fixed... ?

I realize yourself, kenny, and a couple others don't enjoy criticism much, but, is the sensationalism really necessary? Your entire speech is riddled with it but that line especially iced the cake. Are you maybe simply unaware of the fact some people on this planet see right through that kind of stuff offering them no choice but to write it all off as total bunk? That approach comes across as being incredibly dishonest and fake.

I won't discount the fact several of those witnesses are damn good people and have done some damn good things, so I won't let this zany approach of promoting them change my mind about them or impact how I feel about them personally, but damn, if I was on that list, personally I would not want to be involved in this awkward campaign. I feel bad for the people being thrown under the bus. I feel bad for those who didn't make the cut yet I know damn well they're good people as well. You say you stand up for the spirit of the community. On the surface that's all shiny and sweet. Look around though. The reality of the situation is, as far as I can tell, a couple of you got downvoted, which means you're not making as much money as you think you deserve, so for selfish reasons you're attempting to create a massive rift, working to divide the community, so you can have your way.

I don't always agree with every action of those I sometimes agree with or support. I personally don't take sides on issues. If I disagree with you that does not automatically mean I agree with all those you despise, all the time. You think it's wrong if people vote based on ideals. So therefore, based on your own logic, you'd think I'd be making the wrong choice if I followed your advice and removed or added votes for certain individuals, because if I did that, that decision would have been based on your ideals.

Maybe rethink your approach. And please don't come at me with some ridiculous rebuttal. I don't have time to listen to your spin today. That is all. Some food for thought and an honest perspective coming from someone who sees no need to impress anyone or fit in with anything.

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It may be hard to understand in a world that is so cynical and heartless, but many people have dedicated a lot of their time to actually taking action to improving life on Earth. It's obviously a big topic and not one you are going to grasp through cynical lenses and reading a tiny fraction of people's life story in a few paragraphs in a small subset of their Hive posts. You clearly don't accept really anything that Kenny and I share in posts as being valid or real, so obviously you are going to see such statements of intent in the way that you are.

If you took the time to actually understand why I said what I said then you might be able to align more to the meaning. Ultimately, it makes no difference to me whether people think I am talking 'bunk' or not. The proof is in the pudding and the oven is on.

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You're using the same tactics the big media corporations and political parties use to get their way. Just because I don't see the world through your eyes does not mean I'm heartless and somehow can't see the world for what it is. I know bullshit when I see it. And there's no need to make this about ME. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Get it right.

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I didn't say you were heartless, I said you are experiencing a world that is quite heartless and has normalised it in many ways. In truth, I feel that almost everyone has some degree of heartlessness in them, but I am not judging that to be the case in you as I do not know you.

None the less, we clearly do not see things through the same eyes.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, yes - this pudding is still being prepared in a form that you can consume.

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Ditch the sensationalism. Get real. Refine your approach. Work towards bringing people together rather than creating a rift. Realize those who agree are already with you on this by default. They're not the ones you need to impress. That's something I tried to explain to you months ago under one of your covid posts, where you had insulted someone with a brutally disgusting attitude for simply not thinking the way you think and I left that instance thinking you were attempting to make me look like an idiot as well. That day you also couldn't understand why it would be wrong for a man to be happy and smiling after finding out my father had a blood clot. I know you don't know me but those are some of my most recent memories of you. Kenny here has me on mute after I called him out on some bs and I got to see his true colors that day. I didn't come here bitter about these things and certainly don't hold a grudge. I'd like to think I'm better than that. But maybe those events did show me something else about you guys so when I read this bunk about making the world a better place, I just see the face of Jim Jones, and don't trust it. You folks talk a big game but my experience dictates you don't practice what you preach. Like it or not, after much thought, that's how I feel about all this.

And do you know what led me here to you folks and this little show you're putting on? I had been gone for nearly four months, completely offline, nearly off grid. Came back, started sifting through notifications and mentions, checking in on what I missed. Low and behold I find out I'm being thrown under the bus too, by someone tied to this group and even mentioned in the post above. Total fucking low blow and I wasn't even here to defend myself. To top it off I haven't even done anything wrong. It boils down to small town mentality some of you folks have around here. Gawking over the fence. They see someone supporting my work, they don't like that someone, so they paint me as a villain too. And it's not the first time. And it's sickening. Low. Disgusting. And I don't see how any of this makes the world a better place. Sounds more like a world that doesn't involve me.

In the post above Kenny says something like, "I'm not sure what to label those people who support these monsters." Sure I'm paraphrasing. But I can already see where this is going, based on experience, some of the people involved, and so on. Soon enough there will be several more names added to your hit list because they don't think how you think or didn't do what you wanted them to do. That's my guess anyway. You folks will double down on creating this rift, all while posing as the good guys, which I'm not buying.

Anyway. I'm outta here.

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Ok, I recall parts of the conversation now. I would need to re-read the text you are referring to, but I know for sure that your characterisation of me as 'couldn't understand why it would be wrong for a man to be happy and smiling after finding out my father had a blood clot' is not true. I seem to recall agreeing with you that such a position would be heartless.

I don't know who or what you are referring to with regards to being thrown under the bus by someone mentioned above. I don't know more than a small percentage of the people listed here and I certainly don't track their comments enough to know what you are talking about. People say things that are heartless, I do what I can to help to heal, balance and evolve that specific problem - whether you understand that or not doesn't change that it is the case. Most people are not doing anything to resolve this issue. I can't be held responsible for other people's actions - only my own. I am more than happy to take responsibility for anything I have said or done.

I agree that there is a need to harmonise, depolarise and connect people together in a balanced way. That takes intent on both 'sides' in order to achieve. It is absolutely what needs to happen in all problematic social situations. Even knowing this, we have survival strategies and fight/flight conditioning that can be triggered and draw us into conflicts that do not serve us. The topic of information control during COVID is hugely triggering in this regard. There are people who don't accept it is happening or who actively further the suppression - it is totally understandable that to people who view this suppression as preventing lives being saved, the people involved are dangerous. Just like the other way around, people who do the suppression seem to think that the people they are suppressing are dangerous.

Ultimately, arguing over it doesn't help solve the problem.

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Heartless indeed. What's worse is that man had his head so full of this anti vax stuff he up and included an, "I told you so." to go along with that smile. But it wasn't the vaccine that caused the clot, it was an injury that caused the blood clot. You tried to tell me that day the, "I told you so" portion was "medical advice." But that guy cuts grass for a living and most likely spends his time stuck inside the antivax social media echo chamber getting his fill of brainwash for the day and felt joy out of being 'right' about something. But he was wrong, on so many levels.

Now, just because I said that, that doesn't automatically mean I'm an antiantivaxxer or an antivaxer, or anything. I just see a rift, and cults forming around ideas. While in your mind you write about this stuff thinking you're saving lives, so full of yourself you don't notice how many lives are being ruined by social media and this rift. Maybe the juice isn't injected into your arm but it's still affecting your brain and several others as well.

Meanwhile back in reality land I'm at hockey game with 15000 other people and not one of them is dropping dead from vaccines or covid. But if you sit here on the internet trapped inside a bubble and never go outside the world looks nothing like it does when you're out experiencing it, away from all the nonsense. Go to a hockey game and see people cheering for a puck going in the net. Come on the internet and see people cheering for death and destruction. Why doesn't anyone talk about the health issues and mental issues caused by being fed nonsense all day? People have been sitting around obsessing about this shit for months and months and months nonstop. And irony in how loud the voices are, yet claim being suppressed, and how loud they are when claiming they're being suppressed. This whole idea the world is attempting to hide something yet it's everywhere you look! You folks claiming you're censored and there's no free speech yet every day having no issues utilizing your speech to claim being censored and suppressed. Every opportunity to hook yourselves up with a shiny new Hive based tokenized community to get the word out and create the biggest echo chamber in the history of truth or lies, but in the mean time you gotta stick to that classic conspiracy script, play the role of the damsel in distress, and act like the corporate media government monster is about to win the "war for your mind". Well sorry but I'm not giving my mind up that easy. 'They' want it. Those labelled as 'conspiracy types' or whatever want it. NO. Can't have it. Everyone else can have fun taking a side and being manipulated but I'll just sit back and watch the circus.

LOL... Fuck all this nonsense. Now I'm just laughing at myself and everything else. Maybe I am cynical bastard but sure beats being a brainwashed media junkie that can't see the forest for the trees.

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As I recall, I didn't have all the information in that prior conversation at the point that I said what I said and it sounded a lot like the person who smiled had actually done some research and had perhaps been ignored. This was what was happening over and over again at that time. As I have pointed out, the official gov data shows exactly that the death count repeatedly goes up immediately after shot rollouts, because the shots kill quite a lot of people. As I said, I 'bumped into' 4 deaths from shots in 'the real world' myself in the last week or two without even looking for them. People at football games aren't going there, generally, to shout about covid shots and adverse reactions that they probably don't think are real anyway because they believe what they are told by gov and news anchors without looking at the data.

No-one needs to take my lowly word for it - I'm just someone who is sought after for data analysis, has focused on healing for 2 decades and has healed themselves of being crippled after the medical system gave up.. None of that needs to be tackled because there are highly qualified 'experts' with the real bits of paper to prove it - who have consistently agreed with me, word for word and who have consistently been deleted from the internet. This is the root of the anger about censorship from most people - but it seems that those complaining about us complaining have not sense of what is happening in the wider world (all while they complain that we have no sense of what is happening in the wider world).

I was about to link you to Professor Norman Fenton, a Data analysis expert in the UK who has covered some of the COVID data that I have and reached identical conclusions. He posted on Hive after being censored in Silicon Valley sites. I will still link him but there is almost no point as I now see that Youtube has deleted the video interview:

https://peakd.com/hive-196427/@normanfenton/concerns-about-claims-of-covid-19-vaccination-effectiveness-and-safety

There is a link to a connected blog but it doesn't do the video justice at all.

https://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2021/12/possible-systematic-miscategorisation.html

He is just one of a long list of total experts that are repeatedly being censored. This is fundamentally dangerous and arguably literally fascist. People somehow like to think they live in a world that is post fascism or even post stupidity and post corruption. The reality is that things are absolutely no better than they have been in the last 100 years and in some ways are worse.

The reality is that I have lived a wide variety of experiences regarding health and have learned way more that is of use to create health than the vast majority of the people I have ever met - including all of the Doctors I have interacted with. This is not big headedness, it's just what has happened and to some extent what I have chosen. This is why I am doing what I do and why I regularly get thanked profusely for effectively helping people solve difficult issues for free. This has nothing to do with 'big headedness', I would be super happy if I didn't ever do any of these things because 'the system' and people in general actually had the information they need to heal, balance and evolve. I didn't have it myself and nearly died multiple times. Then I spent 20 years seeking out the information, leaving no stone unturned. This is the reality for me, but you have no way of really knowing through the internet like this - so you see me through your own lenses. Personally, I aim to remove all lenses as I don't want distorted reality when dealing with such delicate and sensitive topics.

LOL... Fuck all this nonsense. Now I'm just laughing at myself and everything else. Maybe I am cynical bastard but sure beats being a brainwashed media junkie that can't see the forest for the trees.

I haven't had a TV for 20 years and most of what I am doing is either creating things, helping people in therapy or helping myself. Most of my 'media' consumption nowadays is hive posts.

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I wasn't calling you a media junkie. Just in general. It feels good to still have a mind to use. You point out how some on this planet get their information from one side, and believe it word for word without question, and how idiotic that is in sense. If I point out to you there probably just as many people listening to your side of story, believing it all word for word without question, you'd think that's not idiotic, even though it's the exact same behavior. These are just online internet cults. Once one takes a side on this, they're stuck in it forever. You can't even get through a response without reinforcing the necessary divisions.

You talk about suppression. Both sides act the exact same way. If you enter their realm and attempt to talk what you feel is 'sense' into them, you'll get shouted out of the room. If they come to your house and attempt to say what they feel is right, they'll get shouted out of the room. When I pointed out how you were insulting someone, shouting them out of the room was exactly what you were doing. Even here, the whole anti-suppressant crowd has me tucked behind two mute barriers. What a joke.

https://peakd.com/life/@nonameslefttouse/society-is-a-two-faced-bitch

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You are judging large groups of people to behave the same way when they often don't. In fact, I have specifically removed such people from my personal life as much as possible - I am only interested in free thinking brains/hearts. I regularly explain that beliefs are guesswork and counterproductive - I advise people to not believe a word I say. If there are people consuming my content who don't question deeply enough, I can hardly be held responsible for that. I have done everything in my power - short of publishing the several unfinished books I have on these topics - to activate people's cognitive processes and to question everything. In my mind, by highlighting the extent of the lies that are easily demonstrable in the mainstream, most observers should at least be triggered to question what is all around them more. You cannot really just blindly believe something that totally counters what the mainstream is saying, without actually questioning things imo.

There are a minority of people who will just believe anything that fits in with their own narrative that itself counters the mainstream narrative, that is true. However, in my own experience, such people don't tend to last very long in intelligent research spaces online as their flawed logic is quickly exposed.

You talk about suppression. Both sides act the exact same way. If you enter their realm and attempt to talk what you feel is 'sense' into them, you'll get shouted out of the room.

I personally don't do that and rarely see anyone I value doing that. Your example of me getting annoyed with someone and putting them down is rare and as I have already said, it's not possible to know what is really going on without also knowing the emotions involved, what they need/want and why they are there. We almost never talk about this massive part of ourselves and so are left with a mind that is scrambling to define things without having the full ability to do so.

Even here, the whole anti-suppressant crowd has me tucked behind two mute barriers. What a joke.

Everyone has the right to freedom of association. You have entered the space with intention to challenge, which is fine, but you have often done so without really seeing things as others see the situation and jumping to conclusions that others disagree with. I don't know what you did to get muted, I haven't felt like muting you - but you do seem to have a tendency to grind an axe while putting people down and not listening to them fully.

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You straight up told someone they're not capable of thinking on their own.

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I would have to re-read it to comment in a meaningful way, but I remember thinking that we (you and I) were not seeing things in the same way.

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I confronted you because I thought it was disgusting how you treated that individual. Like a punching bag. All while anyone who fully agreed you put on a pedestal. That individual didn't even challenge you or your post. You straight up shot them down because you disagreed. I don't think you're a bad guy. But you do try way too hard to make yourself look good.

Kenny muted me after I confronted him awhile back. Someone downvoted him. He approached that individual talking about how the downvote was unjust and pointed out the massive number of comments there, acting like he'd done something special, but in reality it was my response that generated a metric shit ton of engagement, not his post. Just like you see here, and in your post from the other day. I create a bit of buzz. He then made a video boasting about how his post that day had "way more comments than anyone else on Hive" acting like he'd done something special. I simply called him out on his BS, because it was total bullshit. His response was a full denial full of arrogance, ignorance, and immaturity. I was treated like a number. A number he felt proud of. Some of the comments were just me shooting the shit with others, like you see here and in your post from the other day that have nothing to do with the subject matter. I just called him out on it all and he didn't like that. Once he muted me and removed me from the equation, the post he was boasting about, making a big scene and using as a reason why that downvote was unjust... it only had two comments. So without saying anything, my point was then fully proven and I walked away, left him alone. Then I saw him being sarcastic, you can see his comment in the screenshot I left below. He'll mock those who downvote, mute, and can't handle being questioned. Then in the post act like he's a proponent of truth. So I have reason to believe he's full of shit. And me being honest isn't putting anyone down like you accuse me of doing. Some in this group, yourself included, have put me down and treated me like crap on several occasions. Doesn't bother me. But I can sit here knowing for a fact there's some bullshit going on here. There's some people posing as pure greatness. I can say that because I know it's true, whether they like it or not.

I have a low tolerance for bullshit. I pointed that out right off the bat in our conversation today. I had suggested you refrain from spin as well and ridiculous rebuttals. I bet you'd deny those exist even though they're right in front of me.

I was dragged into this whole scene. I already explained that to you the other day in your post. Some in this group want to talk shit about me. Well here I am.

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To clarify, a lot of people in 'this group' are just people who post on similar topics who receive upvotes from the same people and who want to help each other out. It might seem like there's some kind of oragnised team effort going on, but there is minimal organisation and most Discord chat is light and unorganised. Many people here never speak to each other afaik outside of the comments you yourself have probably read.

I confronted you because I thought it was disgusting how you treated that individual. Like a punching bag. All while anyone who fully agreed you put on a pedestal. That individual didn't even challenge you or your post. You straight up shot them down because you disagreed.

I would have to see the thread to comment on it. I do vaguely remember it and I remember that I was feeling very stressed for a variety of reasons. Iirc, the person in question had made several comments and you only saw one of them - the gist of them was to dismiss what I was saying out of hand without providing any evidence or reasoning. That may not be exactly what happened, but that's the signature of what I recall at present without having my memory nudged more. Your limited capacity for bullshit is probably similar to mine - though I can also be extremely patient if I feel like it too. At that time I had been submerged in a swamp of people buying corporate lies, hook line and sinker and was frustrated that people's lazy thinking was possibly even going to lead to civil war. We made it through somehow, but many cities are fighting globally and this isn't over yet.

This is one of the most high stress times I have ever experienced and I am energetically more activated than a lot of people because of my awareness of the unconscious patterns involved. Someone might stumble into my post on a coffee break, not realising that I am aligned more to run a highly charged information ops room than to make small talk. Anyway, I'm sure if I saw the post and thread I would make more useful comments here.

I don't think you're a bad guy. But you do try way too hard to make yourself look good.

Thanks. 'Good' is subjective, but in my mind I take what you have said to mean 'squeeky clean' or 'honest'. Part of the reason for that is that I am so used to people using ad hominem attacks and derailing what is being said in unhelpful ways to try to discredit something they want silenced. I just do my best to minimise the possibility of that, in order to try to focus on my goals of disseminating logic and information that can help improve life.

As far as Kenny goes, I'm not seeing any screengrabs in the comments here, but it's clear that he is understandably upset and wanting to be heard/felt/understood. People are quick to judge and fabricate claims about the people that they are saying are themselves fabricating things.. That is the pattern I see being pointed out by most people here on both 'sides'. Perhaps we are highlighting a common thread in humans that affects many people that we all need to look at in order to avoid conflict and come to peace. This is actually the nature of a great deal of healing that I have done over the years - what we usually hate the most in others is something that we do ourselves too, but are in denial of.

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I'd really like to see you folks tackle your issues without the smear campaign and throwing folks under the bus. I'm bored with the platform politics. You found that out the other day. I disagree with the rift being created and enforced. I don't agree with how downvotes are used in some cases either. The things I say I say confidently because the chain is there to back me up. I represent myself and only myself. Act on my own.

And yes when I say 'this group' I'm using the term loosely and don't want to single anyone out. I guess attempting to describe how 'this group' acts towards me is a waste of time, but I know my personal experience well. If I push that any further 'this group' will only want to defend itself in order to protect the image they'd prefer. 'This group' can run a seemingly never ending smear campaign, but 'this group' will not tolerate much, if any, criticism. 'This group' assumes anyone who's not for it, is against it. No middle ground to enjoy.

I'll stop bugging you folks now and probably just leave the platform entirely for awhile. Again, the only reason I'm here is because some bullshit led me here to 'this group', and I'm sick of this bullshit. But I don't want to get into the details and lay it all out for everyone. I just know what I know.

Toodles.

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Well, thanks for sharing your perspective, all voices have something to offer - even if others are tired of hearing the message or adamantly oppose the voice. It may be that, as objectively as we can be, it is the case that a specific voice is espousing dangerous ideas that very definitely will lead to objectively terrible outcomes for everyone that adopts them - but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't hear them. At the same time, everyone who speaks publicly can expect to draw a reflection from others and from this they can always learn.

I'd really like to see you folks tackle your issues without the smear campaign and throwing folks under the bus

I agree that that would be a great ideal for all groups and all people. Sometimes people have had experiences and even traumas that lead them to feel that they don't have personal space to be able to interact with someone else without being defensively/ offensively triggered and so they lose balance. It takes courage and intent to be free enough to think openly and also to challenge our own (often deeply engrained) thinking in order to feel safe/free enough to always stay away from offensive behaviour. Ultimately, it is everyone's responsibility to notice where they may be acting out their own issues on other people in ways that aren't optimal for all involved.

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I've been around this block, forever. All this talking will lead to nothing. Fact.

This is a decentralized media platform. Not the Covid forum. Not the Truther forum. Not the alternative media forum. Not the (insert favorite political nonsense party name here) forum.

IF any group's information is being suppressed, and I don't just mean on the platform, I mean globally... Any group is now free to simply ACT, build their platform upon Hive, and carry on. I see that's in the works. So just go DO IT. Chiseling away at the very foundation is only shooting yourselves in the foot. We have years of trial and error to fall back on. Shouldn't be too hard to get it right. Why waste time yapping about it and playing politics? And oddly enough some of those folks you feel don't stand for freedom or didn't make the cut helped provide the some of the infrastructure required to enjoy the freedom you want, with no intention of ever taking it away, and still building upon it.

I have trouble believing some of you folks in 'this group'. Consistently able to put on a big show, talk a big game, FOR YEARS! Anytime something goes wrong it's a big hissy fit. Forever saying the solution is on the horizon yet it never comes. Stop fucking around and just do it already.

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Fair enough, we are!

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Good!

I'll believe it when I see it.

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Believing is seeing. lol.
A layer 2 token has been worked on for 18 months and the main reason it isn't live is because a founding team member had to drop out for personal reasons. It will either be on Hive Engine or if SPK gets layer 2 solutions going it will be on there. Once SPK gets going there will probably be an explosion of such projects.

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I've been looking forward to seeing what SPK has to offer as well. Are they getting close to release day? Seems to be taking awhile.

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