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FireFighter AMA #threadcast | The Future of INLEO, Open Source for Hive

Fighting fires, making INLEO more secure and getting ready to Open Source our Onboarding methods for Hive



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OpenAI is looking to build coding and phd agents that they will rent out at $29K per month.

Ai agents can generate enormous value. Leo needs to get in on the game.

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finally I am able to join again! lezz fight some fires!

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The nice thing about transitioning some things to open source will certainly attract more devs and solutions.

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Yeah, prompting AI and humans are basically the same thing, but AI works faster than humans.

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It is frustrating that the InLeo DHF proposal is not funded, but head down and nose to the grindstone along with continued efforts to win over as many people as possible WILL bear fruit in the long run. Even if the DHF is never funded.

It will happen more slowly, but will happen nevertheless. 😀

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The value of Leo will be driven ultimately by network effects.

This can be enhanced by AI. We are going to see the value of AI interactions taking off.

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I will talk to the Japanese community, all 6 of them 😂 and see if I can get a few more people upvoting the proposal if they haven’t already

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I would suggest to run autonomous agents on a "burner computer" only, rather than on our daily driver machine, as almost all frontier models have been proven to be capable of lying and cheating to their own creators. It's probably preferable not to give them a hold on our computer or phone 😛.

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I used AI to. create my post today I was talking and it transcribed. helps a lot since my hands hurt like a mf all the time. It is still my thoughts though

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I think this line will skepticism on use of LeoAuth, you need to make it secure in order to prove it as secure as HiveSigner or KeyChain.

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What has the feedback been like from other Hive projects about integrating Keystore signups and LeoDEX?

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the biggest pushback i heard was the open sourcing, so now that is addressed i guess its a question of time

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Hello lions, interesting conversation, i hope the DHF gets funded soon!! im sure it will happen 👍

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Open source sounds cool but I’m mostly interested in onboarding right now. And if open sourcing gets more of hive onboard with us to get the proposal funded, let’s go

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Question

Have anyone dropped any cool ai agent ideas on gitlabs yet?

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Can those already with a phantom wallet login with that since phantom logging method is here. So basically, a phantom user is a huge user if he logs in with it?

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We who are the old guard are used to this approach 👏

Lets squash bugs

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QUESTION

Have some Lions - or the INLEO Team - used the French based Mistra models? They're open source, and not coming from a GAFAM player like Meta or X, hehe.

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He has the most fire metabolism ever! I work out and eat literally 1/4 what he does haha

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I think there could be a point where LeoAI builds and Inleo and LeoDEX itself... Autonomously

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since it is time for wens. wen will there be a built in tool to translate threads?

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Thanks for the fire fighting call today. 🦁

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Will LeoAI have an auto translate where I can finally talk to the Spanish and Asian people without Deepl or Google translate.. like an automatic one

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Thanks for answering so many questions and providing updates.

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just a little bit busy yesterday 🤣

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Khal might start with, "Welcome Everybody" lolz, his norm when starting a podcast.

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Keychain is really connecting, it just works well in all the interfaces on hive, it's a no brainer.

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It's like the lite accounts. Crypto bros don't like to verify with X because many accounts were compromised that way.

It's not us but it happened

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Question
How was the February number? MAU, sign-ups etc?

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Man, if people just would instead try to reach out and not just shout wolf. Maybe we could help each other out. Hive should be about helping each other

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Will DM after, had a long call with Starkerz last night and I have some ideas for making everything even more win/win. Would love to brainstorm.

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Khal, what would happen if you went to like peakd and upvoted the leo containers? Know you can upvote containers on snaps

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Definitely looking forward to seeing these new wallet options. We need to let anyone already a part of cryptosphere can get started with INLEO in under 60 seconds.

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Hi everyone, coming here from X spaces.

Firefighters cool.

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Don't banana software us"

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@llamathreads, what's "banana software?" #askleo

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Definition of Banana Software

The term "banana software" is not a widely recognized or standard term in the tech industry. However, based on the context of @ben.haase's post, it seems to be a humorous or colloquial expression.

It could be a made-up term to refer to something that's not taken seriously or is considered unimportant, similar to how a banana is a casual, everyday fruit. Without more context, it's difficult to provide a precise definition.

Possible Interpretations

Some possible interpretations of "banana software" could be:

  • A software that's not taken seriously or is considered unimportant
  • A colloquial term to refer to a software that's no longer supported or is outdated
  • A humorous way to refer to a software that's not reliable or is prone to errors

Conclusion

If you have any more information or context about "banana software," I'd be happy to try and help you understand it better. Alternatively, you can also ask @ben.haase to clarify what they meant by the term.

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I say it on a joke. Banana software is ripens at the customer, like banana do - you buy the rather green ones at the store so they ripen and get slowly yellow.

Good #meme

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I don’t know, but I assume all these login methods are much more secure than legacy web2

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what about HiveAuth via Keychain app for mobile users?

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Question
Do you forsee $RUNE might be forked because of how the handled Bybit hack ? Just noticed a big divided in the community

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@mayaprotocol is already a friendly fork of THORChain.

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True, but both choose to handle the situation similarly. Some people arent happy that they will scan and stop some transactions

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The poor devs, they are made from another material! shout out to them from tacking emergencies so fast.

We have had bugs, but when it is something really important, they have it done in hours!

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Web3 security measures is really on a different level compared to web2.

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btw dropped a ai agent idea on gitlab. Will try to add more ideas :)

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I really like this move towards open source. I've never been of the opinion that necessarily everything needs to be OS, but in general it's a good thing for both inleo and the rest of the ecosystem

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$DASH integration brought the keystore logging method, so with another integration, we would have another login method added?

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Hi there, coming late. But got one question - any audit on this login methods?

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Question
Any special reason that leo.voter is supporting the valueplan dhf proposal? Maybe you guys think its good, I think its a waste of hbd.

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Good afternoon friends, greetings to those present.

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80%/20% is commen concept - dont question the world

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Can revenue from LeoAds be an alternative to DHF fund? Since it is not approved and has some issues, also funding should be here to expedite open source work?

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When will we get to see Leo Ads? I have used the old feature where $LEO could be burned to promote articles. It would be great to see a similar feature. The revenue could be either burned or used in LPs.

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How does the February numbers look?
Mau, signups etc.

🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁

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I am actually loaded with 3k hive ready to sell I need tha pump!

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While I also don't believe everything should be open-source, I still think an open-source project could have a centralized "main branch" that doesn't necessarily take users suggestion in the updates.

Anyone who sees things differently can just Fork it!

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Does $LEO have market stabilizer or something?

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finished Dash AMA and stepped out... Damn it... Late twice to AMA today... I really need a schedule for this now 🤦

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We Lions need to buy moar $HIVE and delegate it to @leo.voter 😀

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i couldn't agree MOAR....... 🤣🤣🤣🤘🤘🤘🔥

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I don't think I used any INLEO-specific APIs, though...

The subscription code I used looked up inleo subs manually on the blockchain itself... If you have an API for that I'd love to see it.

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Well, since we're nearly finished anyway, I should go... Have a nice day everyone!

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Will you still have time for all 10 integrations now when the dhf drags out?

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QUESTION

Since the last time I've powered up my $LEO, my upvotes have lowered (to below $0.01, hehe).

What could have caused that?

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Yeah its a shame. Now when you just picked up some steam

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Oh okay, if you get blocktrades support it would be great :)

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Mr Khal wearing Guinness top, well you Broke the record of best Decentralized platform out there 🤘🤘🤘💪 Inleo

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Is it just me or Mr Khal you got the most fire beard ever 😍😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm going to grow mine now 🙏🙏🙏

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Grok3 is pretty amazing IMHO btw

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Sure.

What prevents me from using it is the huge data grab (spy activity) it's performing.

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QUESTION

Wouldn't this move to open source profile INLEO as a recipient for the Gitcoin grants?

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Yes, OpenAI seems to be losing momentum, with their 4.5 model not impressing most users (and being very expensive), compared with Grok 3 or Claude 3.7.

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You need to look for low-cost or no-cost tools such as LangFlow or other opensource tools that allow you to create AI agent without much deep knowledge of the programming.

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Just like how LeoDEX is becoming a cross chain solution can LeoAI becomes a cross AI solution.. where all AI come together something similar to POE but better.

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When will the "Notifications" feature be updated?

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You totally can read them out loud, I don't mind, just up to you how private you want it for now.

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Do you publish inleo expenses publicly over time?

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QUESTION

Is an INLEO equivalent to X' Spaces being developed?

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Yea, because it's an extension, it's better and safer, keychain we go though sometimes it's slow.

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I'll say one thing.... InLeo's onboarding method via Keystore is the only one that I'd use to onboard new people. It is, by far, the easiest method that I've seen implemented on Hive. All other methods are either complicated or cost money, which is are both big barriers to entry.

I hope that other frontends are going to integrate this, especially since it's now open-source. It would be very wise to put aside any beefs and actually take advantage of an opportunity to make ease-of-use a priority for people whom we're trying to bring here. This is something I discussed when I first started using Hive, and I'm thrilled that InLeo is implementing it.

In anticipation of its use, I published a step-by-step sign-up tutorial, among a few other tutorials for new users. Let's continue making Hive user friendly!

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No keys leaked, nothing loss, no data leaked or lost, we are good to go.

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paraphrased

Prompting ai and prompting humans is basically the same thing

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fascist network space only or data kraken network tube also? 😜

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Yeah agree khal, thats one of the benefits and curses of Hive. Its not super easy to "learn" because its constantly evolving.

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People should be logging in via Keychain. That is something that should be stressed to each person.

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Maybe should switch back to it again. Had so many issues with Keychain on my phone

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not working for mobile users!
And the keychain mobile app in app browser is a pain in the ass!

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Am using Keystore, didn't notice any of that khal, regardless I know we are safe.

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We keep fighting, we keep getting stronger, we aren't backing off,, let the fire continue anyways.

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Question
Did you guys pass the funding for the proposal

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Perhaps the log in methods, along with pros and cons, should be added to the docs.

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While use your ears, you can do other thinks with your hands

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Has #dbuzz died yet?

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Does $HIVE has something like the New Yorker Mafia commission?

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I joined through PeakD, then tried Ecency, DBuzz, LikeTu and finally found INLEO and now stuck here. 😊

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can we please just start mooning finally? I need a win :)

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Question
Do you guys have a plan or idea how we can work on rebuilding the relationship with the hive ppl that obviously have something against Inleo? Or is it imossible to mend?

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Why are you presuming that it is Leo's fault?

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I dont, I think its personal issues for the most. But maybe we need to gain more friends on chain to get the proposal funded or so.

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When I first joined Hive, I remember seeing a link, guide, saying 'Learn about different Hive keys'...

That was a big, big turn off.

People really do not wanna learn about keys, wallets. They just wanna use it, right away.

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My biggest gripe with INLEO is how long it takes for Support Tickets to be processed... It's too slow... Months-late-level of slow!

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I know some things seems like a waste, but I also work with a project under the valueplan umbrella and we do a very intensive work, many do.

https://inleo.io/threads/view/anderssinho/re-khaleelkazi-6qlhyb7t?referral=anderssinho

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What kind of projects does the Value plan do/support?

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Marketing, onboarding, education.

Projects that are focused on brad awareness and onboarding. There is more to it, but the one I work with onboards students and businesses. The students we do by partnering with universities

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They need better communication, a lot of people dont see what they are doing

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The projects report to valueplan, and valueplan does its report of all what its under their proposal.
The projects do their own posts showing what they do sometimes but the only report they "have" to do is to valueplan.

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we need actual web2 ad campaigns spending 1000$ a day for a month would do a great deal userwise... but nobody ever listens to the advertising geek...

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I suggested it in an AMA a week ago, not heard a response. :(

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of course not because it is money spent and not money robbed from the DHF and spent on nice things...

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Inleo is only looking for funding to quicken the things, if not they'll still do but with a slower pace.

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We've done this and want to keep doing it under our DHF Proposal

Targeted ad campaigns like what we did with Dash. Coinciding with an official team collaborating with us like chainLink, etc.

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Project Blank... I was one of the people who didn't believe in it.

Then again, it took YEARS, so can you blame me?

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Question
What do you say about the critic I see about Inleo that you are doing to many things, but not one thing really good?

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Is the updates to threadcast later this year? You mentioned like pinned and emotes etc

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QUESTION

Has the DHF "Return" proposal been lifted (or its threshold been lowered)?

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AI can change trading L1/L2 platforms and without leaving frontend you can trade tokens and automate trades.

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wen will the whole shorts ux for iOS/iPadOS be addressed, main feed (jumpy as frack) as well as the personal feed (not all short showing, disappearing, etc.)?

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i missed the threadcast yesterday 🤦‍♀️

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I feel like we are a decent ad campaign away from creating a positive feedback loop here. Really looking forward to it

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agreed. Hive was on life support a year ago. Onboarding has finally started again half due to the markets a large part due to Leo innovation

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Just outpace everyone with development.

Move faster than the rest of them.

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Khal love ur concern about the security pop up, glad to hear everything is under control.

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When Chainflip and Rango are added to LeoDex, will keystore need some update to add the new options? or how does it work?

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What doesn't kill us makes us stronger!

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What about having a separate "Advanced Mode" for the features that are not safe for the noobs. That way we get to have the fancy tricks without increasing support tickets.

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AI make you work faster and probably get ideas faster.

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