Jalen, sorry that you feel this way. Steem is ultimately what you make it. If you’re striving to create value and form long lasting relationships, then you will have a positive experience on the platform.
Yep. Agreed. It often feels like you're performing for an empty theater, and it takes more than dedication to keep going show after show (post after post) with only two or three people clapping. You'd have to be obsessed or insane to keep that up for very long... (I'm a bit of both.)
I sure wish there was a way to support the new folks in a substantial way (without them needing to know all the secret handshakes, obscure rituals, and having to pray to the proper gods...) Maybe we'll figure out a reasonable, sustainable method... someday... eventually...
Hey Richard im a bit of both myself haha. thankfully I scoured the blogs and videos for how-to’s but even then...I’ll leave with hopefully we do find a better way.
So here's the thing. I'm not very noticed either, I don't get a lot of comments or high paying posts, and I barely use Discord (and didn't at all for the first year I was on Steem). But I'm active on Steem - on others' posts as well as my own. And I'm still plugging along with some friends and supporters.
I just checked your comments and you've made 14 comments in the past week, most of which were replies on your own posts. No one is going to find you if you're not out there commenting on their posts so they see your name and know you're out here, you know what I mean?
So I would recommend joining @abh12345's Engagement League. He ranks everyone who joins in terms of how much they engage with others on Steem with various metrics. You can see how you compare to the Steemians who really get out there and talk to everyone. That will probably help you figure out what to do to get noticed.
Steem is NOT a "get rich quick" or "become Instagram famous" type platform, or at least, it isn't at this time. Steem is a slow burn, and requires a lot of work to build your foundation. Maybe one day we'll all be driving lambos, but today is not that day.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of the high-paying posts you see - the author PAID for that vote, and is really only making a little profit. So like, they paid a vote bot service 50 Steem and got a 75 Steem upvote, or something (I am completely making up a return rate, I doubt it's that in reality). So never, ever compare your success to the trending page, or anything like it.
Also, find your tribe in the tags - not necessarily on Discord. There are often contests about various subjects, too.
Good luck!
The EL plug aside, this is an excellent comment hitting multiple nails on the head.
If you can't invest the STEEM and want to make a real go of it here, you need to invest some time.
14 comments really isn't enough to promote yourself - join the leagues @jalentakesphotos and go trawl the #photography #photo and tags you like to post using, leave solid comments and hope you get a few more visitors :)
It's great to see you too again phoenixwren! Such knowledge and wise advice is good to see too. How's it going in...where ever you are? lol....Colorado! I had to look it up! lol.
Howdy again phoenixwren! I'm thriving in everyway but it's warm here too, 99 with a heat index of 106. But we live out in the country and the wind is always blowing so it's not that bad. Where do you live, some cave? lol.
Nah I'm in the city proper, which adds that lovely urban heat index - sigh!
But I've got most of the curtains mostly drawn so I'm in my apartment cave. ;D
Oh I see, well if you have good air conditioning it should be fine. Yes in the city it's brutal! You're in Colorado, my dream is to have a summer home in the mountains!
you are here for a month or so, it is a strange place. from my experience with 1 and a half years here, there is still not enough people here for specific posts that are not crypto related. at start of 2018 there was a lot more active people so you could have some kind of interaction on the topic you like. even then it was about connection and now it is even more, maybe it will change but you need a lot of more people that like what you do and also have invested and powered up steem.
i kinda like the possibility of distributing steem to people that i enjoy reading/watching so i did power up all my steem and half of that i have is invested in steem.
so what i been told, and it is probably not the best strategy to grow fast, just grow your account and interact with people. maybe you will not get the best rewards but you will find some interesting people.
Allthough I'd like to tell you otherwise you really have a point here. It's a continuous battle against demotivation & the established "Steem Mafia" who were even fooling us into believing that they really care about new (talented) people entering the platform - apart from their own financial gains ;')
Thanks for your input @jalentakesphotos & that you don't care about the backlash & waves you might cause with it! Actually calling for it on your rep stage is quite a brave move :))
But I think you have more to win than to lose. And I hope many Steemian Minnows will follow that call! @imagenius, the #imaginetwork & I will try to do our best to protect your back. But tbh we simply don't have the stake & influence (yet). Working to fix that asap. We're close to it!
STEEM ON! YOU ROCK!!
I'm gonna check the comments as soon as I've got time! @everone please share your opinion to help raising awareness & achieving the best results asap!!
Extremely well put :) I feel the same way. It's all a 'cool kids' club and most of us ain't in it. And it's interesting (and also sort of depressing) that whenever someone speaks up about it they are told they're not doing it right.
Honestly, I think it depends on what you mean by doing it right. If you mean kissing whatever ass is mightiest and auto-voting the same three rich guys day in day out and dumping massive amount of real money into the platform...then maybe that would be doing it right.
Frankly, when I joined Steem, I hoped it'd be a place to grow and expose my content and while I have gotten some feedback in the two years I've been here, it's not nearly as much as I'd hoped. It's not a place to grow if you're not willing to dump loads of money in, as you very well pointed out, waste countless hours in Discord servers and all that.
It's not the oasis for content creators and artists we all hoped it would be. :(
Don't buy into the bullshit, man. I see people are telling you to engage more. I've done that, I know loads of people who've done that and still do it. They haven't really made much progress. It's a nice lie, that everyone has an equal opportunity here and it's all about "what you make of it", but it's a lie all the same. A fantasy.
Wuttup Mane,
For what it's worth, I followed you and checked out the content. Definitely diggin' it especially being a fellow dancer (popping/b-boying/rock dance/etc.). Like everything else, growth will take time. And nothing worth while ever happens quick. It will all come together for you in due time. Onward and upward on your journey.
Bless up. Stay cool.
P.S. - Was diggin' the St. Mary's battle footage you posted.
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Jalen, sorry that you feel this way. Steem is ultimately what you make it. If you’re striving to create value and form long lasting relationships, then you will have a positive experience on the platform.
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Yep. Agreed. It often feels like you're performing for an empty theater, and it takes more than dedication to keep going show after show (post after post) with only two or three people clapping. You'd have to be obsessed or insane to keep that up for very long... (I'm a bit of both.)
I sure wish there was a way to support the new folks in a substantial way (without them needing to know all the secret handshakes, obscure rituals, and having to pray to the proper gods...) Maybe we'll figure out a reasonable, sustainable method... someday... eventually...
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Hey Richard im a bit of both myself haha. thankfully I scoured the blogs and videos for how-to’s but even then...I’ll leave with hopefully we do find a better way.
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I feel you. I had a tough start here. I 'll come back later today or tomorrow to give you some tips on earning at the beginning.
So here's the thing. I'm not very noticed either, I don't get a lot of comments or high paying posts, and I barely use Discord (and didn't at all for the first year I was on Steem). But I'm active on Steem - on others' posts as well as my own. And I'm still plugging along with some friends and supporters.
I just checked your comments and you've made 14 comments in the past week, most of which were replies on your own posts. No one is going to find you if you're not out there commenting on their posts so they see your name and know you're out here, you know what I mean?
So I would recommend joining @abh12345's Engagement League. He ranks everyone who joins in terms of how much they engage with others on Steem with various metrics. You can see how you compare to the Steemians who really get out there and talk to everyone. That will probably help you figure out what to do to get noticed.
Steem is NOT a "get rich quick" or "become Instagram famous" type platform, or at least, it isn't at this time. Steem is a slow burn, and requires a lot of work to build your foundation. Maybe one day we'll all be driving lambos, but today is not that day.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of the high-paying posts you see - the author PAID for that vote, and is really only making a little profit. So like, they paid a vote bot service 50 Steem and got a 75 Steem upvote, or something (I am completely making up a return rate, I doubt it's that in reality). So never, ever compare your success to the trending page, or anything like it.
Also, find your tribe in the tags - not necessarily on Discord. There are often contests about various subjects, too.
Good luck!
The EL plug aside, this is an excellent comment hitting multiple nails on the head.
If you can't invest the STEEM and want to make a real go of it here, you need to invest some time.
14 comments really isn't enough to promote yourself - join the leagues @jalentakesphotos and go trawl the #photography #photo and tags you like to post using, leave solid comments and hope you get a few more visitors :)
Excellent advice
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Very good points. Thanks for the input Phoenix!
Howdy phoenixwren! You nailed it perfectly, great advice!
Thanks! :) Good to see you, @janton!
It's great to see you too again phoenixwren! Such knowledge and wise advice is good to see too. How's it going in...where ever you are? lol....Colorado! I had to look it up! lol.
LOL, thanks. I'm doing good. It's a hot one today so I'm hiding in my cave right now, but I gotta go out later. How are you doing?
Howdy again phoenixwren! I'm thriving in everyway but it's warm here too, 99 with a heat index of 106. But we live out in the country and the wind is always blowing so it's not that bad. Where do you live, some cave? lol.
Nah I'm in the city proper, which adds that lovely urban heat index - sigh!
But I've got most of the curtains mostly drawn so I'm in my apartment cave. ;D
Oh I see, well if you have good air conditioning it should be fine. Yes in the city it's brutal! You're in Colorado, my dream is to have a summer home in the mountains!
The mountains are beautiful! And a bit cooler than the city. :D
you are here for a month or so, it is a strange place. from my experience with 1 and a half years here, there is still not enough people here for specific posts that are not crypto related. at start of 2018 there was a lot more active people so you could have some kind of interaction on the topic you like. even then it was about connection and now it is even more, maybe it will change but you need a lot of more people that like what you do and also have invested and powered up steem.
i kinda like the possibility of distributing steem to people that i enjoy reading/watching so i did power up all my steem and half of that i have is invested in steem.
so what i been told, and it is probably not the best strategy to grow fast, just grow your account and interact with people. maybe you will not get the best rewards but you will find some interesting people.
Allthough I'd like to tell you otherwise you really have a point here. It's a continuous battle against demotivation & the established "Steem Mafia" who were even fooling us into believing that they really care about new (talented) people entering the platform - apart from their own financial gains ;')
Thanks for your input @jalentakesphotos & that you don't care about the backlash & waves you might cause with it! Actually calling for it on your rep stage is quite a brave move :))
But I think you have more to win than to lose. And I hope many Steemian Minnows will follow that call! @imagenius, the #imaginetwork & I will try to do our best to protect your back. But tbh we simply don't have the stake & influence (yet). Working to fix that asap. We're close to it!
STEEM ON! YOU ROCK!!
I'm gonna check the comments as soon as I've got time! @everone please share your opinion to help raising awareness & achieving the best results asap!!
Extremely well put :) I feel the same way. It's all a 'cool kids' club and most of us ain't in it. And it's interesting (and also sort of depressing) that whenever someone speaks up about it they are told they're not doing it right.
Honestly, I think it depends on what you mean by doing it right. If you mean kissing whatever ass is mightiest and auto-voting the same three rich guys day in day out and dumping massive amount of real money into the platform...then maybe that would be doing it right.
Frankly, when I joined Steem, I hoped it'd be a place to grow and expose my content and while I have gotten some feedback in the two years I've been here, it's not nearly as much as I'd hoped. It's not a place to grow if you're not willing to dump loads of money in, as you very well pointed out, waste countless hours in Discord servers and all that.
It's not the oasis for content creators and artists we all hoped it would be. :(
Don't buy into the bullshit, man. I see people are telling you to engage more. I've done that, I know loads of people who've done that and still do it. They haven't really made much progress. It's a nice lie, that everyone has an equal opportunity here and it's all about "what you make of it", but it's a lie all the same. A fantasy.
Just my opinion. Again, well said :)
Wuttup Mane,
For what it's worth, I followed you and checked out the content. Definitely diggin' it especially being a fellow dancer (popping/b-boying/rock dance/etc.). Like everything else, growth will take time. And nothing worth while ever happens quick. It will all come together for you in due time. Onward and upward on your journey.
Bless up. Stay cool.
P.S. - Was diggin' the St. Mary's battle footage you posted.