Coffee at Starbucks with my Wealthy Friend - Who Knew Porsche Makes an SUV?

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Coffee at Starbucks With My Rich Friend

I used to regularly have coffee at Starbucks with a friend from long ago who became wealthy and obnoxious over the years. Let's call her Pamela. I tried not to judge her too harshly because, even rich people need friends.

I read a tweet today that said something like, "When I was 23, I wanted to be a millionaire. Now that I am a millionaire, I want to be 23." This Twitter person has over 100,000 followers. Okay, we get it: you are successful. Financially, anyhow. Tweet tweet tweet. Fly away, Twitter bird.

My Misspent Youth

Personally, I do not want to be 23 again. My partner pointed out that this might be because I was a single mother with a six year old at that age. I was a teen mother. At first. Then I was not a teen, but the stigma was a gift that kept on giving over the years.

Most people assume I was an unwed mother, but I was not. I had an idiotic marriage at the age of 16 to an emotionally abusive narcissist (maybe a sociopath, really). Where was I?

Right. 23 years old, in university, single parenting, and a social pariah. Maybe that is why I do not look back on those glory days with nostalgia.

Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?

On the other hand, I would not mind trying out being a millionaire. I have never tried my hand at being wealthy, and I think it might be a calling I have overlooked. I think I would be very good at it. Maybe not.

I think I would think of the people I know who are suffering and need more financially, and I would want to help. Eventually, my generosity would end in a return to my current financial state (i.e. not great, but better than many around the world, I realize). So, being a millionaire might not work out for me.

I (not so) secretly hate those people who run around proclaiming that a million dollars is not actually that much money. Okay, then, brother can you spare a cool mill? Or maybe more if a mill is not much?

My Other Rich Friend (Co-worker) From the Dot Com Days

During the dot com boom, I used to work with a lady who made a ton of money in the stock market and from vested shares. She was in her mid-twenties, and she and her husband were loaded. They bought their 2000+ square foot house in the suburbs with cash. They bought their BMW's with cash.

Then the bubble burst, and she came to talk to me one day. "I feel so poor," she said. "We had four million on paper and now, it is just over one million." That was hard to hear, but I try not to judge. It doesn't always work, but I put in the effort.

I said, "Look at it this way: you each have a nice car; you have a house that is paid off; you have good jobs, which pay probably double the national average, at least; you have a cool million in stocks. And neither of you is even 30!"

She said, "You really think we'll be okay?" She was serious. Yes. I told her I thought they would pull through.

On the one hand I understood her pain. They lost about 75% of their wealth, and that's a major financial hit. Huge. However, given their age and overall wealth, it was easy to understand why most of her friends were, according to her, "not very nice." I felt a bit bad for her. She reminded me of that girl from "Clueless".

Back to Coffee at Starbucks with Pamela from High School

Recently, I was having coffee with "Pamela" from high school, who I mentioned at the beginning. I had not seen her in quite a few years and did not realize she was well to do. I knew she was a doctor, so I knew she was not poor, but she was not doctor rich. She was "what the hell?" rich.

She pulled up for coffee in her Porsche SUV. Did you know Porsche makes an SUV? I found out that day. As we were drinking our very over-priced, underwhelming coffees at Starbucks, she started talking about her two daughters. The oldest was 12 at the time.
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You're Never Too Young to Own Your Own Apartment, Right? Mortgages are fun!

She casually mentioned that she and her husband decided to buy them each their own apartment. Not to live in now, but for later. She said they considered just paying cash, but thought it would be more "fun" to get them mortgages. Then they could have tenants and the "fun" of seeing the mortgage get paid off over time. She said they had backed the mortgage with cash as collateral.

Sometimes, it's a real struggle not to show my judgmental face when people are speaking to me. I thought about how I had $100 at that time. Literally. That was all I had. Canadian dollars. Then I tried to take my mind off that and just be grateful that I was not in debt and I had $100!

The Luggage Room... I struggle not to judge.

Later in the same conversation, she told me that she and her husband had decided that they were sick of struggling. They traveled a lot, and the amount of suitcases they had was somehow hard to sort through, so she had come up with the idea of devoting a room in their home to luggage. Yes. A luggage room. As she described the room, I realized it was probably bigger than my bedroom.

It's hard not to compare with other people and their millions, their BMW's, their Porsche SUV's, their children's apartments (valued at $300K each!), and their luggage rooms.

Cold Comfort

However, there is one thing that I have that my millionaire friend from high school does not appear to have: taste buds.

I am not speaking of the good taste to not discuss one's wealth with a clearly less wealthy friend. Rather, I am talking about Starbucks, her "absolute favorite" coffee shop.

I do not understand Starbuck's popularity. They actually have not succeeded in several countries. It reminds me of "The Emperor's New Clothes." Their coffee tastes bad, and it is terribly overpriced. McDonald's coffee tastes bad, but at least it is cheap by comparison. Tim Horton's coffee tastes bad, is less costly, but has some weirdly addictive quality to it. Seriously, don't start drinking it unless you want to keep drinking it.

The other disappointing aspect of Starbucks is the baked goods. They are stale. Even when allegedly fresh. I have given up on their baked goods because, half the time, they are inedible.

Starbucks should market their own diet plan. The coffee and food are so bad: "Eat and drink nothing but Starbucks for 30 days and the weight will melt off."

Conclusion

Of course, this depends on having taste buds, which my friend clearly lacked, given her adoration of Starbucks. I don't meet up with this particular friend very often anymore. Not just because of the pandemic. Rather, it got tiresome hearing of her successes. I don't hide my economic situation, and it seemed almost cruel for her to discuss her budding real estate empire with, ummm, me.

You see, she got a taste for buying apartments, formed a holding company, and just kept buying them up. To hear her speak, buying real estate is like eating popcorn. You can't stop after just one or two. Then there was the custom furniture design for her real estate. It was a hobbusiness: a hobby that rich people engage in that happens to also make big money.

I don't miss our Starbucks chats, as you can imagine. I try not to envy anyone. To be honest, I don't envy her. It would be very convenient to have more money, but I truly do believe that being kind and compassionate are more important than money. Maybe if I had more money, I would feel differently?

The more compassionate side of me wonders how small she must feel that she needs to wave her financial success under the nose of, arguably, her least wealthy friend? I don't think a happy, secure person does that. Of course, I am often unhappy and insecure, but with no luggage room in which to consider the sad state of my affairs.

So, all in all, I am probably just jealous. However, with all her wealth, you would think she would frequent one of the many independent coffee shops in town. There is one lovely Italian one that springs to mind where you can not only get an amazing cup of coffee, but the gelato!!! Now, I want to go there. And I wouldn't mind trying out being a millionaire also. Maybe some day? I dare to dream, but it's not the most important thing to me. Maybe if it were, I would be wealthier? Or maybe it would just drive me crazier that I am not.

Honestly, I am grateful for what I have, but it can be hard to spend time with wealthy people who do not seem to realize that they are speaking to a person who is, by Canadian standards, quite poor. That is frustrating. Even as I write this, I am mindful that some people reading this will think my Canadian poverty is wealth, so I cannot understand how someone can be so oblivious when someone is sitting right in front of them with so little. Remember how I was trying not to judge? I think I just failed. I will take a deep breath and try again.

Maybe a nice cup of coffee home brewed in a Bialetti stovetop espresso pot will help? However, ours is a generic knock off, not the original Bialetti. I can't afford such luxuries.

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You reminded me of an old friend complaining to me about feeling "trapped" while he had an OK (if not good) job, a car and a girlfriend a couple of decades ago when I had none. Obviously those 3 don't necessarily guarantee a feel of freedom but...careful where you direct your complains 🙂 Interesting how hard is for most people to see the big picture out of their (often tiny) comfort (?) zone.
Here's my Starbucks experience from the European Southeast end: When they first opened here they were a much needed addition cause finally you could go to a place and enjoy your drink/snack without unintentionally smoking other's cigarettes. Due to being smoke free indoors their clientele was rather neat and quite people which made their place even more attractive combined with their free wifi (back in the day this was rare to find). Since I am a rare case of not being a coffee addict (not even a regular coffee consumer) I can't say much about their coffee but yes, it's more expensive than the average though I get a feeling it's also better than the average so sounds fair enough. Their snacks/desserts are also priced above the average while you may find more VFM choices around as here the food competition is very high - good thing for people like us who still keep their taste buds alive. Now that it's been years since Greece has banned smoking indoors Starbucks have lost a good reason to visit them. I think today one can chose them over others only to try some of their trademark coffees. Can't recall when I did so last time but it didn't taste bad. Just thought you might wanted to read a Mediterranean opinion on them 🙂

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Well, your opinion is certainly always appreciated! It sounds like you can relate to my feelings, talking to my wealthy friend. It's strange how people can be so insensitive. I am sure I must have been too at some point, despite my best efforts. However, for some people, the efforts are not in evidence.

I can certainly understand the choice of Starbucks for free wifi and a smoke free environment. Those seem like very good reasons to go there. Now, perhaps people are in the habit?

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Perhaps. I have no idea how well they do today.

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Nice time you had with your friends. Actually that is the kind of friends that are good to have because they will never think of their status higher than yours. It's good tho

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They will never think of their status because they are oblivious or because they are positive it is better than ours to begin with? Thank you for your comment.

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Nice you are very welcome they are good friends

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Hello @harlowjourney, an interesting read with some great points, that resonates with me.
Thank you so much for entering, we appreciate your participation;-)

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Thank you. It is such a fun contest. What a great opportunity! It sometimes feels like everything is about coffee. I know it isn't, but it seems like it flows through many of the stories of our lives!

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Coffee is indeed such a common language. I'm happy you've enjoyed this contest
Thanks for your kind feedback;-)

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some people feel the need to display their wealth and position. Others don't. I usually prefer the company of the latter. Many years ago my parents owned a general store in a small hamlet not far from where I live now. In my younger days I worked in the business.

One of the weekend customers we had was a fellow who had a small hobby farm. Least that is what he called it. He would often stop by on the weekend. We chatted about a lot of topics while I served him, often chuckling at his binder twine 'belt' on his jeans.

One day he was leaving as one of the regulars wandered in for a chat. He watched the guy leave and then shook his head. I looked at him quizzically. He laughed and said, you'd think a Supreme Court judge would buy a real belt. I had no idea, the guy was just that laid back. I kind of liked his rustic choice of belt.

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What a great anecdote, @shadowspub! I have also met people who were well-respected in society, but dressed down compared to their "position". I never really considered it, but quietly preferred their company also! A Spreme Court Judge, though. That's great!

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I am sorry to hear about your past and you are a really strong girl and mom, i will root for you. I wish you can be a millionaire too, and even billionaire ❤️

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Thank you. Me too. And to you as well, assuming you are not already a millionaire or billionaire! Let's both become insanely wealthy! I don't know if I would like it, but I am willing to give it a try and find out.

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I laughed throughout this!
I also was a teen mom - married at 17 - but... am about to celebrate 28 years in a few months. Believe me - it was not us. I attribute our marital success on the fact that God has a HILARIOUS sense of humor and loves to drizzle it all over us. me, in particular hehehe

The luggage room got me. LOLOLOL

oh my gosh. you know I sit here laughing, but i KNOW that i MUST have some things that are so common to me - and so ridiculously "wealthy" for other people.

and i - like you - am so so very far from wealthy LOL

We have made some very very interesting choices through the years that have kept us well below the poverty line - but so very happy.

and yet, I KNOW that in my life I have had such incredible blessings, that if I started to talk about them - so many people would assume that i was rich.

but i am :)
in all the best ways.

I wouldn't bother too much with feeling jealous. I mean - i love that you can admit it, first off. because honestly - her life... though it might not be ideal, it's VERY hard to NOT wonder what it would be like to have all that money and truly feel a ping of jealousy, envy... what have you!

but.. we are what we are. have what we have. I think its fun to admit our frailty and our inadequacy when it comes to being able to rise above it all - and i also think its fun to mock ourselves in writing so that others can giggle with us and nod and share that all-knowing look hehehehe

and who knows. one day we might be rich, and then in one year - after we've given it all away, and changed lives and laughed our asses off at all the ridiculous things we've been able to bless people with... we can say, shit. we forgot to see what a luggage room feels like. and then i will come over for a cup of cocoa (cuz that's far better than coffee or tea) and we will giggle and write all about our anecdotes for that year, become famous for our book, become rich again, and poor once again in a year.

hehehehe
sounds like a master plan to me.

I'm feeling so much better. but haven't gotten around to writing just yet. or making videos just yet. but YOUR post is the first one back into the fray for me.

i'm excited about several things coming up - and terrified. because it all depends on money. like so many amazing things heehe

and oh my goodness - wouldn't it just be amazing if dear old Pam wanted to slather 100k on me, just for the hell of it. hehehe

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I am so glad you are feeling better. I was worried! I can't believe we were both teen moms! I have taken a lot of flak over the years for not "sticking it out" in my marriage, but I really wanted it to work. I wanted to prove the naysayers wrong. I just chose the wrong partner, which makes sense because my prefrontal cortex was not yet fully developed!

I am glad it worked out for you, though. And things worked out for me too because, after MANY years, I finally have an amazing partner who loves me and treats me well. And everyone says I look much too young to have a daughter who is in her early 30's. I just smile and say, "Thank you." Heh heh. The hidden benefits of being a child bride.

Thank you for your kind words about my story. I do try not to let envy get the better of me. I think usually when people flaunt wealth or status, there is something else going on with them, but, man, it can drive you a bit crazy if you let it. Maybe anything can. Maybe that's why I am a bit crazy. I have to stop letting things drive me crazy. Maybe I need an Enforcer. You know, someone to step in and mess people up if they bother me. I could flit around and say, "Oh, no... don't. That's way too much. Please stop." I think that would take the pressure off.

I clearly have given this way too much thought. Lol.

I look forward to seeinv your next post or video. But no pressure. Are you fully recovered or mostly? Maybe take it easy on yourself for a while? I am curious what you have on the go. Your post was a good "teaser." Lol.

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But aren't you envious? hehehe 😝😜😁
Try not to let envy get in the way of who and what you are!
Forgive her...

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Of course it is hard not to be a little envious and sometimes a lot. However, I made decisions in my life based on my values and those did not lead to wealth, and I am at peace with that, fundamentally. On a good day. When someone says, "We thought it would be fun for the kids to have mortgages -- we've never HAD a mortgage before!" Sigh. It tests me. I can't lie.

On the other hand, Thoreau said that money cannot buy one single necessity of the soul. I tend to agree, and I suspect that both my wealthy friends were feeling impoverished in this way. I think they were/are very lonely.

It's a conundrum when you think about it. If you are wealthy, you can either never speak of it and deny a huge dimension of your life or speak about it and people envy you and get annoyed because you only have a million dollars or because you have a luggage room. Part of me has a great deal of compassion for this plight. And another, less evolved part, feels envy.

However, while I wouldn't mind having more wealth, I am not envious in the sense that I would like to see her have less if you know what I mean. Maybe she could flaunt it slightly less austentatiously though.

You're probably right, she said, realizing she was being defensive.

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Yes. We all need to forgive the rich/wealthy, the selfish, the greedy and many other people. "Wealthy friend", and the post gets dozens of comments (now mine too), while a lot of people on this platform literally does not get any real human comments.

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Meh money don't count for shit it's what you do with it.Eat,sleep,roof over head job done. I'd say that as long as your happy it's a win.

My mom had me at 16 so she's more like a sister, guess there are always bonuses if you choose to see the silver lineamathingernobber.

Don't worry the Porsche SUV is probably like a yacht, tons of cash to stand in a cold shower tearing up fifties.

Keep on trucking!

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