RE: When was the last time you checked your witness votes? Was it the Steem/Hive hard fork? Or Never?
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- Find something that was formerly considered a conspiracy theory that has been downvoted that is now considered truth or has been vindicated. Think things that legacy media would have deplatformed and censored such as the notion that vaccines would be mandated or the Wuhan lab theory (although I have had friends dispute the latter)
- Attempt to distinguish downvoting that is motivated on ideology versus tht which is purely disagreement of rewards. We know some justify their negative curation because they believe users don't offer value to Hive and do not include links to our beloved Blockchain. I think that may be a fair assessment. Find the cases that do not qualify as that.
I feel somewhat caught in the middle of this thing as I have people I would consider friends on both sides but vehemently oppose ideological downvotes. The question I feel they must ask themselves is what incentive is their behavior providing the current legacy social media's censorship / deplatform targets to join Hive if they exhibit similar conduct as those censors.
My contention is our target demographic tends to not be left oriented on the political compass and thus their behavior is not conducive to onboarding said users. Take it with a grain as of course I am biased but then again we all are to some extent.
Anyways, Kenny I appreciate your post and stance for freedom of speech. Hopefully these stakeholders will eventually come around. 🙏
Hmmm, but aren't most upvotes received because the user agrees or the content/author speaks to them in a certain way? Upvotes are mostly ideological, so opposing that reasoning for downvotes is a hard sell.
I too am more in the middle. I don't think removing downvotes is the answer, but 1-5 users removing the will of 600 isn't going to cut it for long either.
Honestly, if the user isn't upvoting himself, then the rewards shouldn't be in question. I'd say the only time earnings should be questioned is if a large vote under control of the author is used on their own content. Just my opinion, of course.
I think my view may be not so common but I think it would be good to upvote a well formulated argument even if you may disagree with the conclusion.
Of course, ultimately value is subjective but think arguments can be made as to what kind of moderation is in line with our shared objective of growing the platform.
But hell what do I know 🤷♂️
In my opinion, an individual disagreeing with an author's conclusion should be free to downvote. However, if they do find said author's argument to be well-formulated, the downvote should probably be a 0% downvote, so as to establish disagreement without hampering the author's earnings.
I'm down with that!
Oh also I used to be an ardent non-self upvoter. Ask @whatsup and she would probably be able to tell you.
I eventually conceded on that view and do believe users can curate their own content both up and down to what value the user feels is reasonable for their contribution (ideally imho). You may wonder "Who would downvote their own content?" But believe I've seen it and was actually moved to do it maybe once.
It was @kyle that I saw downvote his own meme which I had never seen before.
Acidyo downvoted an ocdb post with both accounts, because it was sitting in trending too long just yesterday, I believe.
Self votes (within reason) I think are a positive thing, but I am so over the rewards disagreement group, I just can't.
Do you know the movie War Games? If not my next lines will be meaningless.
Thermal Nuclear War
Tic-Tac-Toe
Or downvote conversations..
Things no one can win.
I get the new people trying to grasp it, but those who are going on 5 years... Carry on boys! :)
I only voted for your comment because it was a self vote, even though we're not the same person. I get half. I agree with how lame it is talking about downvotes. But again, that's not why I voted. I just think it's humorous to push a button and give myself money sometimes. Thanks for being a good sport. Taking more than half though. That's just being greedy.
Funny thing I accidentally upvoted my own stuff today, from the leofinance front page, it has to do with how notifications are shown. I panicked
OMG the REEEEwards police are going to get me. That's not making a fun site.
Good to see you funny guy! :)
Excessive self voting with intent to dump is typically frowned upon. I know I personally don't approve of that, especially nowadays when one gets half regardless. When self voting spirals out of control, like we've seen in the past, it's not a fun site, or sight. Thousands of people sit there with nothing and have to watch several others with fat wallets congratulate themselves all day on a job well done. Think back to the most excessive form of self voting of all time; vote buying. That was a disaster. It was so hard to be funny back then...
When you play tic-tac-toe do you prefer to start in the corner or the middle?
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Depends which day of the week it is. But usually I just stare at the board and tap my pen while placing a look of focused determination on my face until the one I'm attempting to defeat becomes annoyed and quits. I call that move the tic-tac-toe TKO and it works like a charm.
NICE! I usually grab the paper and tear it up mid game to stop the other person from thinking they might win! lol
I'll chat with you elsewhere, I do think it's a great idea to check witness votes, but I don't want to participate in this.
Like I said, happy to see you around!
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For sure I'll see you around. I only came to be a dash of irony, as I'm muted, so combined with the context here, and my sense of humor, I find it difficult to keep a straight face.
I came here to see who I should bless with downvotes today.
But, I was disappointed. So, I came here to say hi.
Well hello there! Fancy seeing you here. Small world and all that. If you'd like, you can downvote me if you want. You can practice the button and I can practice not freaking the fuck out.
Nah.
These days, I like to sink my downvotes into some Koreans that still feel like they are entitled to their HIVE after siding with Justin Sun.
It’s a hobby.
I'd like to learn Korean someday and be friends with Koreans and visit Korea to see the sights and look at all the fancy lights.
I didn't realize some folks were still around acting pissy about those events from the past, long ago. Certainly highlights how dangerous and irresponsible voting by proxy and forfeiting those responsibilities over to someone else can be. I didn't notice but does this post include a warning when Kenny commanded they forfeit those responsibilities to him or is that part conveniently left out?
Proxies expire a year after they are set if no further governance actions originate from the setter since the last fork. So, at least, it mitigates the effect of forgotten proxy with massive power somewhat.
Wow! That's a neat feature I didn't know about.
Anyway, looks like they've completely wiped my presence from this place so, yeah. I can just imagine how much 'free speech' I'd be offered visiting the 'Information War' frontend they come up with. So typical of these platform politics. Agree, or else...
Laced with irony.
Whatever. Funniest part is, I don't like seeing folks getting pushed around with downvotes either. Some folks from this crowd though, based on my experience talking with some... If you don't fully agree or challenge someone or ask the wrong question or get them rattled in any way, they'll often write you off as a player of the opposing team, since there are seemingly only two sides 'us or them' in their minds. I only represent myself though. They've always had trouble believing that. I don't even talk to anyone off chain. So it's always funny to me to get lumped into that pile and discarded like trash. A common occurrence, but only with a few in this crowd. Plus I'm probably a bit of an asshole, but that stems from me being sick of this shit.
I get what you are saying.
Depending on the peeps I talk to on the internet, I am either a right winger or libtard because my position doesn't always align with theirs.
I don't know what the fuck I am. More about being in the moment I guess. Just wandering the halls of illusions. Misunderstood and miscategorized everywhere I go. Roll with the punches. Far too honest and I think I make people nervous because of that. Don't really care what people think of me but have no problem pointing things out like: I think these people think I'm fucked in the head.
Proving the accuracy of many so called 'coincidence theories' is fairly easy and self evident to those who research them. When it comes to COVID, there is a long record of people such as myself being proven correct by all sorts of data and science, but this makes no difference to the big downvoters - they have absolutely no intention of addressing the actual details and have made this abundantly and overtly crystal clear.
Ohh.. the crazy 'anti vaxxers'.. Tell that to Austria.